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cblaisd May 28, 2009 10:36 am

"Where's the milk?"
 
I would not want to be a restaurant waiter/server; I'd probably get fired (or hurt someone) before the first day's shift's end....

But I have a question for those who are or who have been: why is it so often so difficult to get a glass of milk with the meal?

This happens in high-end resort restaurants to Dennys: I order breakfast and part of the order is a glass of milk. I'm usually asked if I want the milk with the meal; I usually say yes.

But I would say that 50% of the time, when the meal comes, no milk. I have to remind the waiter/waitress/server, sometimes more than once.

So my question: is there something about the typical restaurant routine/s.o.p. that makes this a difficult request?

Of course, if it were on United, I'd be asking if $200 in compensation would be appropriate :D, but fortunately here it's more of an idle curiosity.

Eastbay1K May 28, 2009 11:21 am

It isn't kosher to mix meat with milk, and since you have already ordered Bacon and Eggs, they can't give you milk :D

shiv666 May 28, 2009 11:22 am

some restaurants just dont get enough orders for milk to bother keeping stock...and some places (like chinese or thai places) dont have any milk on the premis since its not used in that food and azn ppl can be a bit more lactose intollerant...

i worked at an indian place....we had jugs and jugs of milk for making desserts...yet milk was never on the menu to order as is....i dont think anyones ever asked me for a glass of milk either...

the only place i see milk is at family type places (ie if the have a kids menu, your good)...order milk at a fancier place and they may pull there hair out for it... best advice is to pop into a cornerstore or even a mcds (ive never gotten an expired box from them) near your intended dining location and get a small box....just tell them you need a glass for it and that you bring your own since you can never find any (if they wanna fuss about it)...

clarence5ybr May 28, 2009 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 11818696)
I'm usually asked if I want the milk with the meal; I usually say yes.

But I would say that 50% of the time, when the meal comes, no milk. I have to remind the waiter/waitress/server, sometimes more than once.

I don't think this is exclusive to milk, rather simple forgetfulness. If your server takes drink orders on the first pass and you order a Coke 'with the meal', I'd bet you'd have a similar success rate to ordering milk 'with the meal'.

shiv666 May 28, 2009 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by clarence5ybr (Post 11819577)
I don't think this is exclusive to milk, rather simple forgetfulness. If your server takes drink orders on the first pass and you order a Coke 'with the meal', I'd bet you'd have a similar success rate to ordering milk 'with the meal'.

i worked in an indian restaurant...and i might have taken like 2 orders for milk the whole time i worked there.....we had plenty in the fridge... some smaller mom&pop fast food places dont even have milk...it is pretty weird that a dennys of all places didnt have milk...


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 11818934)
It isn't kosher to mix meat with milk, and since you have already ordered Bacon and Eggs, they can't give you milk :D

depends on what you culture permits...theres dairy in the coffee, and thats usually free with most restaurants breakfast, and the eggs might be fried in butter before being plated with some bacon, ham and sausage... :D

YVR Cockroach May 28, 2009 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by shiv666 (Post 11818941)
.order milk at a fancier place and they may pull there hair out for it...

I can imagine some server opening a few dozen pots of creamer to fill a glass.

cblaisd May 28, 2009 5:15 pm


Originally Posted by shiv666 (Post 11820391)
...it is pretty weird that a dennys of all places didnt have milk...

Oh, they had milk; in fact all the restaurants that I am thinking of have milk on the menu (the only place I've not found milk available for breakfast is in F on US Airways :rolleyes:). There's just something about the routine of asking for the milk with the meal that usually means it's going to take a second request.

shiv666 May 28, 2009 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 11820723)
Oh, they had milk; in fact all the restaurants that I am thinking of have milk on the menu (the only place I've not found milk available for breakfast is in F on US Airways :rolleyes:). There's just something about the routine of asking for the milk with the meal that usually means it's going to take a second request.

just wondering...would they remember it better if you asked for chocolate milk?

braslvr May 29, 2009 12:01 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 11820723)
(the only place I've not found milk available for breakfast is in F on US Airways :rolleyes:).

Or on UX. As you know, I routinely am on God-awful 5-6am UX flights and I would love to have a cup/carton of milk to start the day, but alas it is not possible.

shiv666 May 29, 2009 12:30 am


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 11822182)
Or on UX. As you know, I routinely am on God-awful 5-6am UX flights and I would love to have a cup/carton of milk to start the day, but alas it is not possible.

i hate liquid bans....they should make a rule where if you want to carry a larger bottle of liquid they should let you take it on if you drink some infront of them...

Fredd May 29, 2009 12:36 am


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 11822182)
Or on UX. As you know, I routinely am on God-awful 5-6am UX flights and I would love to have a cup/carton of milk to start the day, but alas it is not possible.

We flew out of MCO god-awfully early with a couple of young granchildren a couple of years ago. Half the flight was kids and no milk to be had. I actually wrote CR about it and did get compensation for all of us, which wasn't the point.

I told them that failing to stock milk out of MCO was bad p.r. to attract future flyers - of all flights that should be a milk run... ;)

Back to the OP I have no idea how rare it is for an adult to order milk with a meal but it's definitely an odd phenomenom you're experiencing. We happened to eat breakfast at Denny's this morning after flying SYD-LAX-SFO-SEA for about 30 hours yesterday and fortunately the coffee at least was prompt. :)

Cheers,
Fredd

tonerman May 29, 2009 3:47 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 11818696)
I would not want to be a restaurant waiter/server; I'd probably get fired (or hurt someone) before the first day's shift's end....

But I have a question for those who are or who have been: why is it so often so difficult to get a glass of milk with the meal?

This happens in high-end resort restaurants to Dennys: I order breakfast and part of the order is a glass of milk. I'm usually asked if I want the milk with the meal; I usually say yes.

But I would say that 50% of the time, when the meal comes, no milk. I have to remind the waiter/waitress/server, sometimes more than once.

So my question: is there something about the typical restaurant routine/s.o.p. that makes this a difficult request?

Of course, if it were on United, I'd be asking if $200 in compensation would be appropriate :D, but fortunately here it's more of an idle curiosity.

This exact scenario happened to me this past saturday at an IHOP, and it seems to happen quite regularly.

Ican only guess that the reason is that if you ordered it to be brought immediately you would get it 90% of the time, but by ordering it for delivery with the meal the server doesnt have it "on the tip of his/her tongue" I would say half of the time they don't bring it with the food they remember immediately before I have to ask.
Bottom line: Out of sight out of mind, so to speak

PSUhorty May 29, 2009 5:02 am

My complaint is the inability to find good ol' whole milk sometimes, not whether they forget to bring it or not.

shiv666 May 29, 2009 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by PSUhorty (Post 11822774)
My complaint is the inability to find good ol' whole milk sometimes, not whether they forget to bring it or not.

lol that is definately not easy... the grocery store near me doesnt even carry whole milk in a single serve carton anymore...

Swanhunter May 29, 2009 2:42 pm

Asking for milk in a restaurant in the UK would raise so many eyebrows no-one would forget the order!


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