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Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance
(Post 13854721)
Logically, you know what you've seen. The Indians who live in that part of the east coast. But I think you want to paint with a broader brush. The fact is that "curry powder" is in fact sold to Indians outside of New York.
I'm sure there are NRIs buy curry powder because they've become too Americanized, or are too busy to cook. The point I'm making is that you can't just use curry powder to make curry, as there is no generic curry. The curry powder (although honestly, I think even NRIs buy garam masala rather than curry powder) is just a base to start things off, as it were. Kind of like buying a pie crust and making the filling rather than making the entire pie from scratch. |
Originally Posted by vasantn
(Post 13855117)
The point I'm making is that you can't just use curry powder to make curry, as there is no generic curry.
The generic term "curry" implies that the contents were simmered in a broth (or gravy, if you prefer) containing the main ingredients of curry powder. I add a ton of fresh garlic, fresh ginger, cinnamon sticks, and chili to mine. I'm assuming that in the U. K. the expression "going out for (or taking away) curry" means South Asian food in general? As a digression, the first time I went to a Sri Lankan joint in NYC, I was a bit flummoxed by "deviled beef", which does not come from an Underwood can! |
Originally Posted by vasantn
(Post 13850987)
To Indians, it is as absurd as throwing some rosemary, oregano, thyme and basil together, bottling the mixture, and calling it "Italian powder," to be used in making pasta, veal and fish alike, as though any dish would become Italian by the use of this mixture.
Just as bad as those who would throw together some paprika, cayenne, oregano and cumin, calling it "Cajun", or mix some lavender, fennel, thyme, basil and friends, into a "Provencal" seasoning... And don't even get me started on "Chili powder"... :p |
I wonder if anyone is aware that "Italian seasoning" is an actual product. I'd really like to know what is "absurd" about it. I'd judge that the number of companies producing it is a sign it is popular. If you have a big customer base, it is not "absurd" to do it.
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Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance
(Post 13856617)
I wonder if anyone is aware that "Italian seasoning" is an actual product. I'd really like to know what is "absurd" about it. I'd judge that the number of companies producing it is a sign it is popular. If you have a big customer base, it is not "absurd" to do it.
But I guess I will never educate the Philistines here, so enjoy your curry powder. :D Oh, and next time you're in a Mario Batali restaurant, ask him how many of his dishes use pre-mixed "Italian seasoning." |
Originally Posted by vasantn
(Post 13857388)
Popular ≠ authentic.
But I guess I will never educate the Philistines here, so enjoy your curry powder. :D Oh, and next time you're in a Mario Batali restaurant, ask him how many of his dishes use pre-mixed "Italian seasoning." |
Originally Posted by vasantn
(Post 13857388)
Popular ≠ authentic.
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Originally Posted by nerd
(Post 13863024)
I'm confused. What's not authentic about putting basil, thyme, oregano in an Italian dish?
The fact that there are hundreds of different "curries" should make it obvious that a single "curry powder" could hardly be an ingredient of most of them. |
Originally Posted by vasantn
(Post 13863182)
Adding basil, thyme and oregano does not make a dish Italian. Similarly, throwing curry powder onto something does not make it Indian.
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Originally Posted by vasantn
(Post 13863182)
Have you ever seen any of these ingredients added to veal marsala or fettucine alfredo? Adding basil, thyme and oregano does not make a dish Italian. Similarly, throwing curry powder onto something does not make it Indian.
The fact that there are hundreds of different "curries" should make it obvious that a single "curry powder" could hardly be an ingredient of most of them. |
Originally Posted by nerd
(Post 13863263)
Oh, did someone suggest that you could throw curry powder on a quesadilla and call it Indian?
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Best curry on Guam is from Song Huong. Open 24 hours a day.
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
(Post 13866507)
I believe it was in San Diego that I espied an Indian - Mexican "fusion" joint.
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So did someone actually call a quesadilla Indian because it had curry on it? Where and when? Betty Crocker never did that. She named things like "curried eggs" or tuna with curry sauce. Seems very reasonable to me. When I made up fusion recipes, I always put a Norsk on the front to acknowledge that no Indian would ever cook it.
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I'm not sure why we've gone so far off track. My original statement was that "curry powder" is a bit of a joke to most Indians I know, and is not really authentically Indian. It is mostly an invention for export, created by the British.
I haven't yet seen anyone use facts to contradict my assertion. I have no idea why quesadillas were introduced into the discussion. |
re: Indian - Mexican fusion joint
I didn't dine there, just walked by
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Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance
(Post 13870510)
So did someone actually call a quesadilla Indian because it had curry on it? Where and when?
Apparently there were several replies from people who had added curry powder to their tiramisu/ceviche/pesto pasta, and then called it "Indian". |
Originally Posted by vasantn
(Post 13857388)
Popular ≠ authentic.
But I guess I will never educate the Philistines here, so enjoy your curry powder. :D Oh, and next time you're in a Mario Batali restaurant, ask him how many of his dishes use pre-mixed "Italian seasoning." Philistines? I use no premixed ingredients of any kind other than Herbes de Provence, and make all curry from fresh ingredients, something few Indians do. Still, I appreciate that many people who do like fine food have neither the time nor the expertise to cook everything from scratch. I would not denigrate them for that, but I would try to convince them that the extra effort is well worth it, and is enjoyable in and of itself. I give away lots of turmeric, ginger, coriander, basil, thyme and rosemary. Doing so has helped convince a few people to do better preparations at home. Philistines? No, I don't think so. Just people with little time, training or inclination. I don't want to eat their food, but I'll not call them by pejorative names. |
I'm really into duck red curry at Thai restaurants. I had some in Boston last week and I've been craving it ever since. I just wish it always came with carrots.
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I love curry at airports.. I dropped my parents off to catch their plane and literally jet upstairs for quick eats before jumping back into the vehicle.^
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
(Post 13969902)
I love curry at airports.. I dropped my parents off to catch their plane and literally jet upstairs for quick eats before jumping back into the vehicle.^
Interesting... :p |
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