Originally Posted by clarence5ybr (Post 8927864)

Today, the majors like Bud and Miller are still crap, but there is so much amazing American beer out there today (e.g., Russian River Brewing, Green Flash, Surly, Stone, etc., etc., etc.) that I can't believe you are still spouting lines like "done the impossible and produces an American beer that is drinkable."

Originally Posted by clarence5ybr (Post 8927864)

Although some of their specialty beers are not bad, I really don't care for the Sam Adams 'flagship' beer.

As for your comments on American beer, they are so far out of date that they are laughable. In the early 1980s, when Anchor Steam and Geary's were the only two truly good American beers I was familiar with, you may have had a valid point. Today, the majors like Bud and Miller are still crap, but there is so much amazing American beer out there today (e.g., Russian River Brewing, Green Flash, Surly, Stone, etc., etc., etc.) that I can't believe you are still spouting lines like "done the impossible and produces an American beer that is drinkable."

Originally Posted by alex0683de (Post 8928113)

OK, then let me modify that - "done the impossible and produces an American beer that is drinkable while at the same time being able to sell it effectively enough that it is easily found across a broad range of locales".

Because whenever I order a beer in the States, all that is available on tap is the same mass-market swill. Otherwise it's something imported and bottled - though that usually ends up being preferable.

Originally Posted by kipper (Post 8928289)

A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.

Originally Posted by kipper (Post 8928289)

There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations. I've actually found one restaurant that sells $2 pints/every day, all day, including microbrews. However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.

A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.

Originally Posted by kipper (Post 8928289)

There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations. I've actually found one restaurant that sells $2 pints/every day, all day, including microbrews. However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.
A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.

Originally Posted by kipper (Post 8928289)

There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations. I've actually found one restaurant that sells $2 pints/every day, all day, including microbrews. However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.

A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.

Originally Posted by HereAndThereSC (Post 8930364)

Sam Adams is listed as an import/premium because it costs more than Bud/Miller/Coors.

Originally Posted by osamede (Post 8931208)

Trust me the same is true in most European countires. Go to any restuarant and most pubs/bars, good or not, and all they serve is chemical swill made by multinational brewers. You have to go to smaller towns to see more diversity, primarily because of people supporting their local microbrews.

Originally Posted by OliverS (Post 8860016)

I am at the Marriott Winston Salem right now and after getting back last night had a few beers at the bar with a friend.
They had Sam Adams listed as import (instead of as domestic) which also meant they charged $5 for it, not $4.

Originally Posted by kipper (Post 8928289)

There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations.

Originally Posted by kipper (Post 8928289)

However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.

Originally Posted by Analise (Post 8931531)

Ahhh, life below the Mason-Dixon. :D

No, the idiots down there haven't a clue. :rolleyes: