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Showbizguru Oct 20, 2007 7:53 am

No ENGLISH cuisine
 
I ventured on to the FlyerTalk Cookbook section for the first time and was surprised to discover that among the ethnic sections there wasn't one for English food.
Nowhere I could post the delights of Lancashire Hot Pot,Toad in the Hole,Jam Rolypoly,the Barnsley Chop,Yorkshire Pudding,the Full English,Black Pudding,the Cornish pasty,the Melton Mowbray pie and not forgetting the glorious chip butty.
We didn't get to be a nation of Fat .......s lying down you know !

Green Dragon Oct 23, 2007 11:37 am

I, for one, would be delighted to talk about English Cuisine (no, it's NOT an oxymoron!)

Steak and Guinness pie....mmmmmmm....

Flyin'Mom Oct 23, 2007 4:37 pm

Bangers and Mash....mmmm....

mlshanks Oct 23, 2007 9:59 pm

Bubble and Squeak, the Plowman's Lunch, Deep Fried Mars Bars, fish and chips w/ malt vinegar, trifle, spotted dick, and Steak and Kidney Pie.

Mmmmmmmmmm....

Showbizguru Oct 24, 2007 12:47 am

Mushy peas.
If you're English you'd know.

mosburger Oct 24, 2007 12:50 am


Originally Posted by mlshanks (Post 8611664)
Deep Fried Mars Bars

I thought this is as Scottish as Irn Bru...

jib71 Oct 24, 2007 1:12 am

Hmmm - There is a section for British food: (severely underpopulated):
http://www.flyertalk.com/cookbook/vi...tegory=British

There are also sections for Beef, Poultry, Seafood, Pork, Other Meats, Vegetables, Potato Dishes etc. etc.

So get posting. I'm looking forward to seeing your recipe for black pudding.
Do you start with a pig? (Or with a black pudding?)

Green Dragon Oct 24, 2007 8:01 am

sticky toffee pudding....mmm...

graraps Oct 24, 2007 8:18 am

Chicken tikka masala mmm ;)

nam Oct 24, 2007 10:26 am


Originally Posted by Green Dragon (Post 8613323)
sticky toffee pudding....mmm...

Nothing is better than this. We had some of the best sticky toffee pudding in a small town in Scotland. Wish I could recall the name of the restaurant since I would love to have their recipe.

Flyin'Mom Oct 24, 2007 5:29 pm

British bacon....Bacon Baps....mmmmm.....

Jet Set Oct 24, 2007 6:52 pm

I'm craving fish & chips right now. Love it in a English Pub with a pint!

Showbizguru Oct 25, 2007 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 8612168)
Hmmm - There is a section for British food: (severely underpopulated):
http://www.flyertalk.com/cookbook/vi...tegory=British

There are also sections for Beef, Poultry, Seafood, Pork, Other Meats, Vegetables, Potato Dishes etc. etc.

So get posting. I'm looking forward to seeing your recipe for black pudding.
Do you start with a pig? (Or with a black pudding?)

But I was talking about ENGLISH food.
It's like Canadians feel when people mistake them for Americans.

jib71 Oct 27, 2007 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by Showbizguru (Post 8619583)
But I was talking about ENGLISH food.
It's like Canadians feel when people mistake them for Americans.

Oh. For a moment I thought you cared about food. But it seems your beef is with the web site taxonomy.

marais Oct 29, 2007 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by Showbizguru (Post 8591974)
Nowhere I could post the delights of Lancashire Hot Pot,Toad in the Hole,Jam Rolypoly,the Barnsley Chop,Yorkshire Pudding,the Full English,Black Pudding,the Cornish pasty,the Melton Mowbray pie and not forgetting the glorious chip butty.

Please do here! And to open things up a bit: If I were to have an overnight layover in London, where should I go for a good, solid, authentic English dinner? I'd appreciate some brilliant advice ;)

Mmmmm....bacon butties...thick slices from a roast joint with Yorkshire pudding...a Full English in the morning (don't spare the beans, LOL)...kippers...trifle...treacle pudding! My inner John Bull trencherman emerges :D

ijkh Oct 30, 2007 6:30 pm

Spotted Dick
 
My favorite English food name. Never tasted it though;)

graraps Nov 1, 2007 8:30 am


Originally Posted by ijkh (Post 8648958)
My favorite English food name. Never tasted it though;)

My old local used to serve it on Sundays as a dessert after the roast. Was quite interesting when my two female friends requested their spotted dicks served with bananas on the side. :D

maxdxb Nov 1, 2007 8:58 am

Porters in Covent Garden isn't bad, a little touristy. There website is http://www.porters.uk.com/

Rules is also good, http://www.rules.co.uk location also Covent Garden.

Showbizguru Nov 2, 2007 7:29 am

For classic English cooking you really can't go far wrong with the Savoy Grill at the Savoy Hotel.
They're been doing it for centuries and whilst young pretenders come and go the Savoy sails gracefully on.
Not cheap - but then the best things in life aren't.

stut Nov 2, 2007 7:39 am


Originally Posted by graraps (Post 8658250)
My old local used to serve it on Sundays as a dessert after the roast. Was quite interesting when my two female friends requested their spotted dicks served with bananas on the side. :D

At least they didn't ask for a pair of plums...

Or crushed nuts...

Showbizguru Nov 2, 2007 3:26 pm

I didn't post this earlier because it's one of those things you're reluctant to pass on.
But breakfast at Simpsons-in-the-Strand is one of life's great culinary experiences.
Indulge in this and you will not feel like eating anything else until a light snack very late in the evening of the same day.
It is trencherman food of world-class standard - artery-clogging and life-shortening but the nearest thing to heaven on earth.

Rejuvenated Dec 10, 2007 11:35 pm

I'm definately a fish & chips fan (though I consume it less frequently due to the health content) and always creeps into my mind when someone mentions English cuisine. :)

obscure2k Dec 10, 2007 11:43 pm

Stay overnight at the Connaught. Treat yourself to a marvelous breakfast. Later have a great lamb . So good

moocherx Dec 11, 2007 12:51 am

Huntingdon Fidget Pie
 
I like it for the name.

Well... and the taste.

http://www.dairydiary.co.uk/recipes/recipe03.html

osamede Dec 11, 2007 11:13 am

English cuisine is much maligned - and deservedly so! :):) That said you cant beat a good olf English cafe fry-up with baked beans and fantastic real Emglish bacon and sausages. Incredible...

There are really good astropubs like the The Garrison in Bermondsey http://www.thegarrison.co.uk/ with all local recipes made using local farm produce. .

At the higher end. The Fat Duck in Bray www.fatduck.co.uk/ was also really good and creative, although maybe a bit overhyped for what is was. I'm told that the pub they run next door is actually really good value for eating, not surprisngly I guess.

thegeneral Dec 11, 2007 1:54 pm

I do like their muffins.

Rejuvenated Dec 11, 2007 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by osamede (Post 8876901)
English cuisine is much maligned - and deservedly so! :):) That said you cant beat a good olf English cafe fry-up with baked beans and fantastic real Emglish bacon and sausages. Incredible...

Hmmm. I seem to recall being invited for dining and having a set meal that included those. Very impressive. ^

BiziBB Dec 11, 2007 6:18 pm

High Tea

Would LOVE to see the 'ladies' of Little Britain doing there thing at one!

Most of my favourite Little Britain sketches have food or drink in th background, somewhere. ;)

manneca Dec 11, 2007 6:30 pm

When I last went to Kenya, someone asked what the food was like. I replied, "The best of British cuisine." I have never found anything good in anything that was British, Dutch, German, Scandinavian food. OK, British breakfasts are great. The best thing about British and Dutch food is from their former colonies. I love Indonesian, Indian, Malay food. My sons knows all the great Asian places in London. He even got his grandmother to eat at curry places in London.

stobin Dec 20, 2007 6:11 pm

does anyone remember "Scouse"? sp? Rhymes with "house"? My grandma (from Yorkshire) used to make it for us when we were kids. it was kind of like a stew of some kind, details are foggy. she used to say it was The Beatles' favorite meal. i think that may have been her ploy to get us past all the vegetables in it.

YVR Cockroach Dec 20, 2007 6:20 pm


Originally Posted by stobin (Post 8932610)
does anyone remember "Scouse"? sp? Rhymes with "house"? My grandma (from Yorkshire)

I always thought "scouse" was the dialect spoken by Liverpudlians. Seems the name may be derived from the dish!

violist Dec 20, 2007 7:38 pm

Originally lobscouse

osamede Dec 21, 2007 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by manneca (Post 8879493)
I have never found anything good in anything that was British, Dutch, German, Scandinavian food. .

In Scandinavia for example you have lots of wonderful fish, lamb and pork dishes.. Hard to find, outside of traditional holidays, but they do exist and are wonderful. COuple examples...
- Pinekjøtt (smoked and grilled lamb rack), in Norway, usually christmas food in their west coast country
- In Denmark the smørebød (little open finger sandwiches in almost infinite variations) is incredible. There are bakeries and specialists shops all over Copenhagen serving Smørebrød
- Norwegian sour cream porridge, a hella lot tastier than it sounds!

GadgetFreak Dec 27, 2007 11:24 am


Originally Posted by maxdxb (Post 8658449)
Porters in Covent Garden isn't bad, a little touristy. There website is http://www.porters.uk.com/

Rules is also good, http://www.rules.co.uk location also Covent Garden.

Oh goodness. Rules is okay but St. John is vastly superior for a somewhat updated version of classic English cuisine. It is a world class restaurant specializing in English "head to toe" cooking.

mosburger Dec 28, 2007 1:59 pm

When I have better time, I'll either post links to both trad and nouvelle Scandinavian, Dutch, German and British food here or open a new thread.

As this includes my heritage and some of the countries where I grew up and studied, it would be interesting to try to convert someone to the delights of these cuisines. ;)


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