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ALadyNCal Aug 2, 2006 5:22 pm

Lobster @ The Palm (multiple cities) ~~ Dinner for two - $75
 
Someone posted this in SPAM, but I didn't see it in DiningBuzz.

http://www.thepalm.com/promodetail.cfm?promo_id=41

$75/$85/$95, includes lobster (4-5-6 lbs), salads, sides, coffee thru AUGUST 19TH

So, now to the big question ~~ anyone ate at THE PALM? :D How is it?

Starwood Lurker Aug 2, 2006 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
Someone posted this in SPAM, but I didn't see it in DiningBuzz.

http://www.thepalm.com/promodetail.cfm?promo_id=41

$75/$85/$95, includes lobster (4-5-6 lbs), salads, sides, coffee thru AUGUST 19TH

So, now to the big question ~~ anyone ate at THE PALM? :D How is it?

The wife and I had our anniversary dinner at The Palm in San Antonio. I have no idea how their lobster is because we were there for the beef! ;) And, I have to say that it was truly one of the best meals I've ever eaten. My filet was done to perfection and it was so tender that I could have cut it with a fork instead of using a knife.

If you get sides, ask for 1/2 portions. A half portion of the fries and onion rings and another half portion of the mushrooms was too much for two of us.

Sincerely,


William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services

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blueskeyes Aug 2, 2006 6:58 pm

This is a great price. I'm going. Thanks!

ALadyNCal Aug 2, 2006 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
And, I have to say that it was truly one of the best meals I've ever eaten.

See, now you've done it....you're gonna make me want to drive allll the way to L.A. to eat there ;) Of course, we would be having lobster -- hope they do that as well as they apparently did your steak :) I have HEARD of The Palm in L.A., but a) didn't know if it was just a trendy place to go, and b) that it was actually a quasi-chain.

Thanks for the feedback tho ;)

Cholula Aug 2, 2006 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
So, now to the big question ~~ anyone ate at THE PALM? How is it?

Just to add another opinion. The Palm is pretty much a full-blown steak house chain with over 30 locations. And I've probably eaten at half of them , many several times. I personally like the chain but not for the steaks/seafood which I don't rank anywhere near the top. The best thing on their menu is, IMO, the asparagus friti which is lightly breaded, pan-sauteed in lemon butter and finished with fresh Parmesan. That and their generous drinks and the ambience of the restaurants are the Palm's main draw for me. I like their clubby atmosphere. The caricatures of local celebrities that are drawn on the walls are also a unique characteristic of The Palm.
For an entree I usually get one of their veal dishes which they do a decent job with.
If you go, enjoy but don't expect a life-altering experience.

TWA Guy Aug 3, 2006 8:30 am

The annual lobster special is one of the best deals around! Since The Palm usually sells lobsters for $20+ per pound, this is a great deal. The hash browns are THE best around and ask for the marinara sauce with the string beans. Their lobsters are absolutely delicious, I highly recommend going for this special. There's nothing like seeing a restaurant full of people wearing bibs eating lobster. This deal has been around since the end of June and we usually hit it twice per summer at The Palm in Tysons Corner. Enjoy :)

ALadyNCal Aug 3, 2006 10:15 am

There are TWO in L.A. -- one in Santa Monica + one in downtown. Can anyone recommend one over the other?

Cholula Aug 3, 2006 10:22 am


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
There are TWO in L.A. -- one in Santa Monica + one in downtown. Can anyone recommend one over the other?


If you have equal access to either, I'd chose the Santa Monica location. The downtown one is across the street from Staples Center and can get congested at times.

IceTrojan Aug 3, 2006 10:34 am


Originally Posted by TWA Guy
Their lobsters are absolutely delicious,

Disclaimer: I'm not a regular lobster eater.

But, I've always been confused by lobster comparisons, how one place is better than another. If you catch two lobsters from the same location, and they're steamed at two different restaurants, shouldn't they taste the same?

It's not like beef, where they can be aged/marinated/grilled differently.

Cholula Aug 3, 2006 10:43 am


Originally Posted by IceTrojan
Disclaimer: I'm not a regular lobster eater.

But, I've always been confused by lobster comparisons, how one place is better than another. If you catch two lobsters from the same location, and they're steamed at two different restaurants, shouldn't they taste the same?

It's not like beef, where they can be aged/marinated/grilled differently.


I'm a regular lobster eater and can't tell the difference either. But the lobster pound I eat at most often in Maine sends their boats on a four hour RT daily to catch lobsters that they could catch 50 yards from their dock. They swear that the lobsters they catch in Vinalhaven, ME are much sweeter than any others. And this pound has customers waiting in long lines to eat there everyday.
So there may be something to their theory.
Plus this pound boils them in ocean water and they claim that's a "secret" to better taste as well.

kingalien Aug 3, 2006 11:24 am


Originally Posted by IceTrojan
Disclaimer: I'm not a regular lobster eater.

But, I've always been confused by lobster comparisons, how one place is better than another. If you catch two lobsters from the same location, and they're steamed at two different restaurants, shouldn't they taste the same?

It's not like beef, where they can be aged/marinated/grilled differently.

I'll add my 2 cents, IMO the fresher the lobster the sweeter they taste. Freshness is how long the lobster has been removed from the ocean as opposed to sitting in a tank. Which is why lobsters at pounds tend to taste better than at restaurants.

ALadyNCal Aug 3, 2006 11:28 am


Originally Posted by kingalien
Which is why lobsters at pounds tend to taste better than at restaurants.

Forgive me -- I live on the West Coast ;) Why are they called 'pounds' instead of restaurants?

ContinentalFan Aug 3, 2006 11:30 am

Excellent deal, even if it is a restaurant. ;)

Cholula Aug 3, 2006 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
Forgive me -- I live on the West Coast ;) Why are they called 'pounds' instead of restaurants?

Hey, I live in CA too. You have to get out of the state more often. ;)

Lobster pounds are where large amounts of trapped lobsters are kept alive to either sell in bulk to other dealers, to ship to restaurants or to sell to consumers for a meal/carryout. A lobster pound is not primarily a restaurant although most do have indoor or outdoor dining facilities.
Here's a little blurb on lobster pounds:


The first lobster pound appeared on Vinalhaven in 1875 and others quickly followed. Lobster pounds work in the same manner as the smack boats. The lobsters are kept in tanks with water passing freely through them. The first lobster pound was in a deep tidal creek, but today they are more common on docks floating in the harbor. Using the pound, dealers can wait for the price of lobster to increase or allow a newly-molted lobster time to harden its shell.

ALadyNCal Aug 6, 2006 11:04 pm

So........I made a reservation for later this week. It seems this is just an on-going promo, so I don't have to print anything out. Right? Thanks :)

TWA Guy Aug 7, 2006 5:25 am

You're right - you don't need to print anything. Just dine by 8/19 which is the last day of the deal. Enjoy!

Sweet Willie Aug 9, 2006 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal

So, now to the big question ~~ anyone ate at THE PALM? :D How is it?

Well, I usually like to give a place more than a couple chances so Mrs Sweet Willie & I went to the Palm this evening. I was inspired by this thread. Having not been impressed with the Palm's steaks, I thought we would go for the lobster.

Bar was hopping, restaurant was dead at 6:30pm on a Thursday night. Only 8 other tables were filled.

Ceasar salad was quite good despite no anchovies. :( Wife said the house salad had way too much dressing.

We chose a 5lb lobster which when it came had the body of a 5lb but not the tail. I've had more meat out of 2lb lobster than what we experienced this evening. This lobster had been sitting around for quite awhile and with no exercise, the tail muscle shrinks to the skimpy thing it was. :td:

Hash Browns are 1/2" strips of red potato and were good but SWIMMING in butter :td:

Grilled Asparagus were quite tasty, done right ^

so-so wine list, not a wide selection for a steakhouse.

This last experience has pretty much made up my mind that I will not be returning to the Palm.

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kingalien Aug 9, 2006 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by Sweet Willie
We chose a 5lb lobster which when it came had the body of a 5lb but not the tail. I've had more meat out of 2lb lobster than what we experienced this evening. This lobster had been sitting around for quite awhile and with no exercise, the tail muscle shrinks to the skimpy thing it was. :td:
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Were the claws of decent size at least?

cordelli Aug 9, 2006 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by Cholula
But the lobster pound I eat at most often in Maine sends their boats on a four hour RT daily to catch lobsters that they could catch 50 yards from their dock.


Where Where Where Where?

Always looking for new places up there.

FlyingCarpet Aug 9, 2006 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
So........I made a reservation for later this week. It seems this is just an on-going promo, so I don't have to print anything out. Right? Thanks :)


I see that you are in Laguna Niguel...It might be easier to come on down to SAN where they just opened near Petco Park/Gaslamp. I drive up to San Clemente/Dana Point several times a month and it rarely takes me more than 45-60 mins and it is a much much more enjoyable drive.

ALadyNCal Aug 9, 2006 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingCarpet
I see that you are in Laguna Niguel...It might be easier to come on down to SAN where they just opened near Petco Park/Gaslamp.

I have a reservation for tomorrow @ L.A. On MapQuest it was a few miles closer and then I thought it might be nice to try one of the original locations.

However, having read the notes above by Sweet Willie....I'm a little skeptical now :(

I also was not thrilled to call the other day and hear their corkage fee is $30 :rolleyes:

Cholula Aug 9, 2006 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli
Where Where Where Where?

Always looking for new places up there.


Tie on a bib, grab a table and enjoy.

ALadyNCal Aug 9, 2006 9:18 pm


http://www.yelp.com/biz/hBqDQGJcIfi3XyKYbZKhJg
So helpful....a site with TWO reviews of the Palm in L.A. -- one good & one bad :eek:

http://www.frommers.com/destinations...es/D40901.html
But Frommer's likes it ;)

Oh well....I guess I'll get the real story when I go tomorrow :)

Sweet Willie Aug 10, 2006 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by kingalien
Were the claws of decent size at least?

Yes, atrophy had played a part here was well but not near to the extent that was present with the tail.

PantyWaster Aug 10, 2006 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by IceTrojan
Disclaimer: I'm not a regular lobster eater.

But, I've always been confused by lobster comparisons, how one place is better than another. If you catch two lobsters from the same location, and they're steamed at two different restaurants, shouldn't they taste the same?

It's not like beef, where they can be aged/marinated/grilled differently.

They can be overcooked. It's criminal.

ALadyNCal Aug 11, 2006 9:28 am

We came, we saw, we ate...
 
Had a reservation for 7:00 but traffic delayed us till almost 7:15. When we went to the front desk, I gave them our name and asked if we could have ‘somewhere quiet’. He offered ‘quietER’ and I said OK. My husband came in 5-10 minutes later from parking the car and we were seated. Either the guy at the front didn’t remember the ‘quietER’ part or just blew us off because we were seated at a small table in the very middle of the restaurant :(

My first impression was it was MUCH noisier than I expected – so much so it made conversation difficult. And although I had briefly noted a photo of the restaurant on their website, it really looked nothing like I thought it might. Instead of a ‘nice restaurant’ it came across more as a loud pub.

I had picked a Thursday night thinking it might be less crowded and easier to get a reservation than Fri or Sat. I was wrong. Although there were not crowds waiting to get in, it looked completely full inside. Half way thru dinner, a huge group of Japanese people filed out from upstairs and go onto a bus waiting outside!

We chose the 5 lb lobster for two, with caesar salad, fried asparagus, and ‘half & half’ (half onion strings and half potato chips). Unusual side dishes for us actually because we don’t order much fried food. We also decided to skip wine (which is also unusual for us) and have water.

He told the asst waiter to bring us water + maybe he didn’t hear him. Then our waiter was nowhere to be seen. Then we asked another waiter for water. Then our waiter returned and apologized profusely and we ended up with TWO glasses of water.

I had read reports of snobby waiters and we were lucky that we had a good waiter. He asked us if we had been before + we said no. He said, “You’re not from L.A.?” We told him “Orange County”. He said they have been there 30 years, where have we been? He couldn’t believe we hadn’t been to ANY of their restaurants ANYWHERE. However, the asst waiter must have been perturbed that we had to ask for water twice because he never gave us the time of day after that.

The salad arrived very quickly. It was not very large, was below average and didn’t impress either of us.

Then came the bibs and utensils, followed by the side dishes. The ‘half & half’ is a plate stacked 6” high and the fried asparagus (fortunately) was very lightly battered.

Then came the lobster. It was already split down the middle and each person is served one half on a silver platter. The claw is detached and the asst waiter breaks it open for you. The body of the lobster was stuffed with some sort of spinach mix (that wasn’t really appealing even tho I like spinach). There was a dish with at least 6 oz of butter for EACH OF US.

My first impression was that the tail didn’t look very big for a 5 lb lobster. I had envisioned left-overs because a 5 lb lobster dinner sounded very large to me….but turns out it wasn’t.

The fried asparagus was good, the fried onion strings were good – but neither were great. The lobster was very good, which I guess is the most important thing.

For us, the loud chaos of the restaurant really detracts from a having a relaxed enjoyable dinner. So while we enjoyed the lobster, I wouldn’t say we enjoyed the environment.

As all the food came so quickly, I couldn’t believe we had been seated, ordered, and eaten in barely ONE HOUR. Turns out to be a good thing we had skipped a bottle of wine, as I’m not sure we’d have had time to finish it.

The manager came over, introduced himself, and said he heard this was our first visit + welcome. This was followed by the “where have you been?”…. He told us he was giving us a complimentary cheesecake and hoped we returned. I told my husband that free cheesecake had been mentioned in some reviews.

The cheesecake that arrived was a huge portion and very very good.

Then the bill arrived and we found we were charged for the cheesecake….so we had to wait while we flagged down the waiter and got it revised.

All in all, the lobster and cheesecake were the highlights of the evening. Were they worth driving an hour to L.A. for? No. I’m sure they serve great steaks there, but there are plenty of places in Orange County that do, so we won’t be trekking to The Palm to try theirs.

We appreciate a nice dinner out and this did not feel like a nice dinner out. As for leftovers, we left the 2 lbs of fried onion strings and potatoes behind, easily ate the lobster we were served, and came home with half a piece of cheesecake :)

slawecki Aug 11, 2006 10:22 am


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal



My first impression was that the tail didn’t look very big for a 5 lb lobster. I had envisioned left-overs because a 5 lb lobster dinner sounded very large to me….but turns out it wasn’t.

When in college, Waltham market sold large(5-9lb) lobsters very cheap($0.59-0.79 a pound). they were considered much less desirable than small 1-2 lb lobsters as they were tougher, and less sweet.

we bought many, steamed them, and chopped them up for salads, chinese, etc.

A 5-9 pounder would yield very close to 50% of weight in meat. A 5 lb lobster should have over 2 lbs of meat, not counting the stuff in the legs

ALadyNCal Aug 11, 2006 10:31 am


Originally Posted by slawecki
A 5 lb lobster should have over 2 lbs of meat, not counting the stuff in the legs

It DEFINITELY didn't :( I guess you have to take their word it's 5 lbs, but I would guess that on my plate the tail portion was maybe 6-8 ounces and the claw portion was about 4-5 ounces. Neither of us felt it was difficult to consume our half and neither of us left stuffed. When my husband gets back, I'll ask what his estimate of the net portions were -- you know how men and women view measurements differently :D It was tender tho, so that's very important ^

kingalien Aug 11, 2006 10:34 am


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
My first impression was it was MUCH noisier than I expected – so much so it made conversation difficult.

because of all the cracking of crustaceans? :D Thanks for the report.

ALadyNCal Aug 11, 2006 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by kingalien
because of all the cracking of crustaceans? :D Thanks for the report.

Cute :)

Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
...I would guess that on my plate the tail portion was maybe 6-8 ounces and the claw portion was about 4-5 ounces.

Asked hubby and his estimate was that we each had about 8-12 ounces of lobster meat. Absolutely no way there was 2 or 2 1/2 lbs of meat from the lobster. Guess we should've ordered the 6lb'r :p

Sweet Willie Aug 11, 2006 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by slawecki
A 5-9 pounder would yield very close to 50% of weight in meat. A 5 lb lobster should have over 2 lbs of meat, not counting the stuff in the legs

would tend to agree and I have been to steakhouses where the tail was obscene in size, mine at the Palm as reported above was tiny.


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
My first impression was that the tail didn’t look very big for a 5 lb lobster. I had envisioned left-overs because a 5 lb lobster dinner sounded very large to me….but turns out it wasn’t.

I'm not glad that you did not have leftovers, I too was envisioning leftovers for a Lobster BLT the following day, but sadly my lobster's tail left quite a bit to be desired from the size standpoint.

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kingalien Aug 11, 2006 3:30 pm

Unfortunately it looks like this deal is more of a rip off. Tails are substandard in size and seems most of the weight is in the claws. So these lobsters would not be considered prime choice and thus sold at a discount which is passed along as a special deal here. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some rounding up of weight such as 4-1/2 pounders are sold as 5 pounders, etc.

Cholula Aug 11, 2006 3:52 pm

Just an FYI but Maine lobsters do not have very big tails. As someone noted, their best meat is primarily in the claw. The lobster tail you get in most restaurants is from the South African Rock Lobster and these tails are much bigger and meatier than anything you'll find on a Maine lobster.

ALadyNCal Aug 11, 2006 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by Cholula
Just an FYI but Maine lobsters do not have very big tails.

Thanks for the info -- didn't know that :)

Sweet Willie Aug 11, 2006 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by Cholula
Just an FYI but Maine lobsters do not have very big tails. As someone noted, their best meat is primarily in the claw. The lobster tail you get in most restaurants is from the South African Rock Lobster and these tails are much bigger and meatier than anything you'll find on a Maine lobster.

yep, I'm with you. I do buy Maine lobsters on a regular basis and while I agree with what you state, the tails are more in proportion than what I experienced at the Palm.

The lobsters at the Palm looked like the weightlifter guy who worked their huge upper body but forgot to workout their legs! :)

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cordelli Aug 11, 2006 8:33 pm

The palm uses only lobsters from Novia Scotia I believe, so you would expect smaller tails. It's also possible they have already shed their shells and are in their new bigger shells and haven't grown into them. That makes the meat seem totally out of place, and the weight of the animal is high, because of the liquid filling those spaces, but the meat amount is lower. It's that time of the year, I would expect many of them to be soft shelled.

The hard shells (the ones that have not molted) have more meat for the size of the lobster, the soft shelled ones are supposed to be more tender and sweeter. I don't care, I love them all.

I wouldn't call them substandard, or anything else, it's how lobsters run this time of year.

Cholula Aug 11, 2006 9:02 pm

As long as we're doing a lobster primer here, Maine lobsters are known as warm water lobsters. And South African lobsters are cold water lobsters.
Yeah, I know...Maine sounds cold but the Gulf Stream runs along the coast and the water is relatively warm.
And South Africa sounds warm but the waters are frigid.
Cold-water lobsters are considered more desirable than warm water as the meat is firmer and sweeter.
Or at least that's how the marketing pukes would explain it. ;)

slawecki Aug 12, 2006 6:21 am

pound for pound, Soft shells tend to have more meat than hard shells, as the shell weighs much less. Most large lobsters are mined off the coast of NJ in very deep water. they are then landed in the cape cod area of MA.

The water is very cold at those depths. Not many harvested Maine lobsters get to giant size. for some reason, the production of maine lobsters has skyrocketed, and the prices have fallen. I am not at all famaliar with nova scotia lobsters, but it is difficult to determine harvest location for most fish.

read recently where a guy illegally filled a boat with chilean sea bass and was chased half way around the world by authorities. he could have landed them in australia, or south africa.

The south african "rock lobster" is a giant crayfish, not a lobster.


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