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Analise Apr 5, 2006 7:35 am


Originally Posted by meducate
I wonder if this is why we are seeing a lot less salad bars (at least IMHO) then we did say 10 years ago. I think that communal food sharing (salad bar, buffet :) )is a great idea but when the participants have poor/no hygiene it cannot work.

....except for some reason, Vegas travellers don't seem to mind the communal food sharing. Buffets are a mainstay out there.

meducate Apr 5, 2006 7:37 am


Originally Posted by Analise
....except for some reason, Vegas travellers don't seem to mind the communal food sharing. Buffets are a mainstay out there.

It's a different mindset when in Vegas :rolleyes:

Robt760 Apr 5, 2006 8:32 am

In most cities/counties/states, it is mandated by the health department to have a sneeze guard over any buffet to prevent contamination from sneezing, drooling, and such.

As far as wearing food handler gloves, I have a mixed opinion about this, as it gives a false sense of clean hands. I found one restaurant that posts a sign stating that their corporate standard is to NOT use gloves, but to enforce strict hand washing for their team. I can't tell you how many times I've seen somebody make food and then move the trash can while still wearing the same pair of gloves...then again I see lots of things being in the business.

dizzy Apr 9, 2006 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by meducate
It's a different mindset when in Vegas :rolleyes:

I wonder if "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" applies to what you catch from eating @ germ-buffets :D

meducate Apr 10, 2006 6:51 am


Originally Posted by dizzy
I wonder if "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" applies to what you catch from eating @ germ-buffets :D

Well, if we are talking about sneezing at the buffet, it probably should read "What happens in Vegas STICKS in Vegas!" :rolleyes:

molasis Apr 11, 2006 7:35 am

And I think to add to that point, people in general are far more willing to mingle in public while sick. Where 20 years ago people would stay at home. Not a right or wrong, just a trend.

cyberdad Apr 11, 2006 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by Sanosuke
Or the installation of sneeze shields would have helped. (those glass extensions that angle downwards over the food)

Sanosuke!

Actually, I think the real reason for sneeze shields is to give restaurant operators a device to be positioned in such a way as to keep customers from taking as much food as they'd grab if "unimpeded".

"Public Health concerns", of course, are a valid reason for installing them, but I see this as a fringe benefit for the restaurants. Its a little like hoteliers limiting room occupancy to comply with fire codes, etc. True enough...but its also gives them a handy reason/excuse to sell additional rooms.

Anyway, I love salad bars. At least in principle. Doctors, on the other hand, hate 'em. One doctor was quoted in the press a few years back as calling salad bars, "one of the greatest germ exchange venues in the world".

FinsUp99 Apr 13, 2006 7:10 am

Two words:

Check, please!

LostInAmerica Apr 13, 2006 7:22 am


Originally Posted by deltajfk
Even to my dismay, my wife wanted to go to Charlie Browns. (An okay steak house, which is a chain) Since I don't eat red meat I decided to get unlimited salad bar. The salad bar is usually good, except for I saw someone sneeze on one of the dishes and just walk away :eek: I got one of the waiters and told him, but are people now a days totally uncivilized? Come on cover your freaking mouth; just don't sneeze where ever you want.

This time you were "lucky" enough to see the offending behavior and avoid the consequences. Try not to think about all the times you don't witness the behavior and eat food with a questionable history. Salad bars, buffets, careless fast-food employees, and disgruntled kitchen staff. Some things we are better off not knowing...

Travelin Dreams Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am


Originally Posted by molasis
And I think to add to that point, people in general are far more willing to mingle in public while sick. Where 20 years ago people would stay at home. Not a right or wrong, just a trend.

True, what do you think is responsible for this? Is it our busy, busy can't be gone from work or disconnected from communications that leads to this. . .

tdo-ca Apr 14, 2006 5:34 pm

The title reminds me...
 
Of when a group of us were at an all-u-can-eat salad (and beer) place in NYC many years ago...and somebody had too much salad (and beer) and dashed toward the bathroom...only to "lose it" on the salad bar...and nobody noticed...

jhm Apr 23, 2006 4:22 pm

This thread reminds me of a newspaper article I read many years ago (early 90's) which, from memory, said that tests of food at salad bars revealed that most of the food had bacteria normally found in faecal matter, i.e. customers not properly washing their hands after going to the toilet! I've not touched a salad bar since then. I've tried to Google for the article but can't find it.

panagt Apr 28, 2006 7:11 pm

this is why I don't do buffets...
 
I saw a kid of about 5 or 6, of course by himself, grab the big spoon from a tray of pudding, put it in his mouth for a nice big bite, then put the spoon back into the pudding. That was it for me..and that was about 6 or 7 years ago!

dizzy Apr 29, 2006 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by jhm
This thread reminds me of a newspaper article I read many years ago (early 90's) which, from memory, said that tests of food at salad bars revealed that most of the food had bacteria normally found in faecal matter, i.e. customers not properly washing their hands after going to the toilet! I've not touched a salad bar since then. I've tried to Google for the article but can't find it.

Do you mean E. Coli? We all have 'em (including cows). The real problem is not the normal E. Coli that are routinely detected in such tests, it's that there might be some E. Coli in the mix that are O157:H7-the EHEC (enterohemmoragic) class.

This is the strain that caused the Odwalla Apple Juice Outbreak, and the Jack-in-the Box Outbreak

jhm Apr 29, 2006 9:42 pm

In my case, it's not so much what bacteria it is but the fact that its presence in most salad bars (according to that survey) indicates contamination by customers!


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