Consolidated "Best Restaurants in the World" thread
Apr 30, 2013, 3:16 pm
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IMHO
- Daniel & Jean Gorge will have no more than one star in Paris.
- #5 for Eleven Madison is a joke. I found Gordon Ramsay with only 2 stars MUCH better than Eleven Madison
- #24 for Robuchon in Paris is the biggest joke ever, fine dining is now at the counter.
- Robuchon HK : plastic bottle of sparkling water, at the counter with 3 michelin stars....
- Caprice HK : Worth zero star , maybe one star if you have a window table for the view
- #23 astrance : is better than Ducasse in Paris and Monaco... strange
Im my opinion the best restaurant of all above is Epicure at the Bristol Paris and is not on the "water" list
Michelin especially outside of France is often completely wrong (not to mention 2 stars for "Bo innovation" in HK),
- Daniel & Jean Gorge will have no more than one star in Paris.
- #5 for Eleven Madison is a joke. I found Gordon Ramsay with only 2 stars MUCH better than Eleven Madison
- #24 for Robuchon in Paris is the biggest joke ever, fine dining is now at the counter.
- Robuchon HK : plastic bottle of sparkling water, at the counter with 3 michelin stars....
- Caprice HK : Worth zero star , maybe one star if you have a window table for the view
- #23 astrance : is better than Ducasse in Paris and Monaco... strange
Im my opinion the best restaurant of all above is Epicure at the Bristol Paris and is not on the "water" list
Michelin especially outside of France is often completely wrong (not to mention 2 stars for "Bo innovation" in HK),
Apr 30, 2013, 11:03 pm
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Just looked over the list and there are a lot of solid choices there...I've been to ## 5, 8, 15, 19, 21, 44, 47 and 48. Tokyo in June. Will need to try one of the places there, I think.
--mcz
Last edited by mczlaw; Apr 30, 2013 at 11:09 pm Reason: Update
May 1, 2013, 3:49 am
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This and the Michelin guide are an insult to my tastebuds and general intellect.
I have dined at a number of these restaurants and a large number of Michelin ones spanning the US, Hong Kong and Europe and 9 out of 10 times I leave feeling disappointed.
I often find the food to be fairly good but when I see countries, mostly Australia and specifically Melbourne, where Michelin hasn't ventured I am left scratching my head. There are restaurants I turn my nose up at in Melbourne that are better than a number of Michelin restaurants I have eaten at.
Basically I am saying that Michelins standards are low compared to places that aren't even included in their ranking.
Dine in Melbourne, it will change your philosophy of food.
I have dined at a number of these restaurants and a large number of Michelin ones spanning the US, Hong Kong and Europe and 9 out of 10 times I leave feeling disappointed.
I often find the food to be fairly good but when I see countries, mostly Australia and specifically Melbourne, where Michelin hasn't ventured I am left scratching my head. There are restaurants I turn my nose up at in Melbourne that are better than a number of Michelin restaurants I have eaten at.
Basically I am saying that Michelins standards are low compared to places that aren't even included in their ranking.
Dine in Melbourne, it will change your philosophy of food.
May 1, 2013, 4:51 am
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[QUOTE=cedricgerald;20677786]IMHO
- Daniel & Jean Gorge will have no more than one star in Paris.
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Have to disagree. Both earn their 3 Stars in my eyes. I´m not a big fan of Paris restaurants. First the extended use of Foi Gras and other ...., second they often have an arrogance problem
- Daniel & Jean Gorge will have no more than one star in Paris.
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Have to disagree. Both earn their 3 Stars in my eyes. I´m not a big fan of Paris restaurants. First the extended use of Foi Gras and other ...., second they often have an arrogance problem
May 1, 2013, 5:38 am
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This and the Michelin guide are an insult to my tastebuds and general intellect.
I have dined at a number of these restaurants and a large number of Michelin ones spanning the US, Hong Kong and Europe and 9 out of 10 times I leave feeling disappointed.
I often find the food to be fairly good but when I see countries, mostly Australia and specifically Melbourne, where Michelin hasn't ventured I am left scratching my head. There are restaurants I turn my nose up at in Melbourne that are better than a number of Michelin restaurants I have eaten at.
Basically I am saying that Michelins standards are low compared to places that aren't even included in their ranking.
Dine in Melbourne, it will change your philosophy of food.
I have dined at a number of these restaurants and a large number of Michelin ones spanning the US, Hong Kong and Europe and 9 out of 10 times I leave feeling disappointed.
I often find the food to be fairly good but when I see countries, mostly Australia and specifically Melbourne, where Michelin hasn't ventured I am left scratching my head. There are restaurants I turn my nose up at in Melbourne that are better than a number of Michelin restaurants I have eaten at.
Basically I am saying that Michelins standards are low compared to places that aren't even included in their ranking.
Dine in Melbourne, it will change your philosophy of food.
Want silver service? Go to Jacques Reymond.
Want one of the best burgers in the World? Go to Jus Burgers
Italian? Il Solito Posto
Greek? Too many to list
The list goes on and on, i am astounded by the fact there is no Michelin ratings in Australia when the whole country has one of the best foodie scenes in the World, with a huge focus on sustainability and paddock to plate, healthy dining
May 1, 2013, 9:17 pm
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Definitely agree re: Daniel & JG (except I'd put Jean Georges way lower than Daniel) and I'm a weekly regular. For me it mostly comes down to ingredients, which are generally better/different tasting in Europe.
And as far as "foie gras & arrogance problem" - this is the silliest thing I've read in a while when describing dissatisfaction with Paris restaurants lol
What's wrong with foie gras, btw?
May 2, 2013, 6:32 am
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Interesting to see Noma drop from the #1 spot this year. They have held it since El Bulli declined to be on the list anymore.
I've only been to a few on the list, and Asador Etxebarri has been my favorite meal ever. It was an amazingly simple showcase of the best ingredients in the world, cooked to perfection. No need for sauces or anything else, just simple perfection. It was a contrast to Arzak, which I tried on the same trip, and was full of innovation and complexity.
I've only been to a few on the list, and Asador Etxebarri has been my favorite meal ever. It was an amazingly simple showcase of the best ingredients in the world, cooked to perfection. No need for sauces or anything else, just simple perfection. It was a contrast to Arzak, which I tried on the same trip, and was full of innovation and complexity.
May 2, 2013, 12:04 pm
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May 2, 2013, 4:58 pm
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--mcz
May 2, 2013, 8:09 pm
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Sepia is my fav Syd restaurant. Marque is as you say over-rated.
May 2, 2013, 9:56 pm
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