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canuck_in_pa Apr 21, 2006 12:29 pm

I vote for Bahama Breeze. I only recently realized they were a chain.

number_6 Apr 21, 2006 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by canuck_in_pa
I vote for Bahama Breeze. I only recently realized they were a chain.

BB, Red Lobster and Olive Garden are all owned by the same company (so in a sense part of the same chain). The food is mostly dismal but has a few bright spots (the Talapia in a bag at Red Lobster is superb, for example, but just about the only good thing on their menu).

abruin2 Apr 26, 2006 4:54 pm

In 'N Out, Pappadeaux, Corner Bakery, CPK, Cheesecake Factory, P.F. Changs are my faves - other than at In 'N Out, I can usually also find something fairly healthy at each one, too!

cutelgp Apr 26, 2006 7:05 pm

Legal Seafood!!! Had it for the first time in Boston and it was great. Up until then I did not enjoy seafood and with the exception of Legal Seafood I guess I still do not really like seafood. They really are THAT WONDERFUL. Must try the seaweed salad! Drinks can be a little high; but overall it is well worth it for the money.

cblaisd Aug 17, 2006 9:53 pm

At at the Texas Roadhouse restaurant in Des Moines....

http://www.texasroadhouse.com/

Suprisingly good! Steak was good to very good, ribs were very good to excellent.

Reasonably priced, too.

ContinentalFan Aug 17, 2006 11:56 pm

I still like Applebee's--I was in a restaurant today at ONT on my way to SEA. I had a great meal--delicious chicken salad!

JBlaine Aug 19, 2006 11:18 pm

El Torito's in California

Rejuvenated Aug 20, 2006 12:45 am

Applebee's - California
Spaghetti House - Hong Kong
Maxim's - Hong Kong

cblaisd Aug 20, 2006 7:41 pm

Had Steak and Shake for lunch today.

Mmmmmm.......

cyberdad Aug 21, 2006 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by JBlaine
El Torito's in California

Been a while since I've had a good meal at one of these. A visit to the one in Santa Clara this spring was pretty dismal....right down to the torn and frayed upholstery on the booths! I recall them as being pretty decent in the 70s and 80s, however.

Another chain I don't think has been mentioned as generally being good is J.Alexander's Steak Houses. I think there are about a dozen or two around the Midwest and South. Mrs. Cyberdad and I have yet to be disappointed. Also on the subject of steakhouses....I'd agree with Texas Roadhouse belonging on the list of good places. DSM, indeed has a good one...as does MEM and JAN. I'd also include their similar competitor, Logan's, as a good chain.

BamaVol Aug 21, 2006 3:00 pm


Originally Posted by cyberdad
Been a while since I've had a good meal at one of these. A visit to the one in Santa Clara this spring was pretty dismal....right down to the torn and frayed upholstery on the booths! I recall them as being pretty decent in the 70s and 80s, however.

Another chain I don't think has been mentioned as generally being good is J.Alexander's Steak Houses. I think there are about a dozen or two around the Midwest and South. Mrs. Cyberdad and I have yet to be disappointed. Also on the subject of steakhouses....I'd agree with Texas Roadhouse belonging on the list of good places. DSM, indeed has a good one...as does MEM and JAN. I'd also include their similar competitor, Logan's, as a good chain.

I regularly eat at a J. Alexanders in Cleveland and agree that it's pretty good. I've never had a steak there, but the seafood I've ordered has been well prepared.

I have no complaints with the food at Logan's, but the atmosphere gives me heartburn: too bright, too noisy, too many servers running willy-nilly, too focused on table turnover, I hate them having a server go table to table selling gift cards all December-long.

thegeneral Aug 21, 2006 7:20 pm

There is something specifically wrong about each chain restaurant. By definition, they're run by people who are more concerned about things like food cost and adhering to whatever their regional manager says than they are in your overall experience. I've never been impressed by franchise restaurant I've been in (high end steak houses included). Personally, I would rank Burger King/Wendy's above the chains everyone has talked about here. At least they help me when I'm hungover. :p

If more of the business travel set actively sought out independent restaurants, then we wouldn't be faced with the generic mass manufactured crap that chains sell.

dogmom11 Aug 21, 2006 9:44 pm

Houlihan's! Yes, we're 2 San Francisco foodie snobs and were a bit peeved that Houlihan's was the only restaurant in the Buffalo Marriott. We were there to see family and decided to bite the bullet, since it would be too difficult to coordinate anything else. Very, very pleasantly surprised w/the quality of all of the food, especially the grilled Ahi salad and other seafood choices (yes, in Buffalo!!!) You learn something new every day... :)

aSiAnRiCk Aug 22, 2006 4:31 am

Miller's Ale House in Florida ^

stimpy Aug 23, 2006 2:48 am


Originally Posted by thegeneral
There is something specifically wrong about each chain restaurant. By definition, they're run by people who are more concerned about things like food cost and adhering to whatever their regional manager says than they are in your overall experience. I've never been impressed by franchise restaurant I've been in (high end steak houses included). Personally, I would rank Burger King/Wendy's above the chains everyone has talked about here. At least they help me when I'm hungover. :p

If more of the business travel set actively sought out independent restaurants, then we wouldn't be faced with the generic mass manufactured crap that chains sell.

Yea! In post #332 someone finally got the point of the thread. I started this thread in hopes of finding a decent chain restaurant that bucked the supposition you made that they are more about business than providing a good meal. There are clearly a few such restaurants that do well, but the vast majority is quite poor.

This business traveler does NOT eat at chain restaurants. Unless I'm hung over in a place like Japan and faced with raw squid or a cheeseburger for breakfast. :D

trader61 Aug 23, 2006 8:18 am

Of all the chains I know about, the only one I actually seek out in any city is P. F. Changs. In the case of Asian food, I prefer knowing what I'm going to get without surprise.

xanthuos Aug 26, 2006 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by fredmartens
Steak: I'll take the Keg (Baseball Sirloin). Not into overpriced steak joynts.
Quickie chains: Portillo's Hot Dogs, (man is that chocolate cake good there)
or a DoubleDouble at In-N-Out.
Gyros: The Smokehouse in Wheaton, IL. The gyro plate is about a pound... yikes...(well, not really a chain, they have 2 of 'em).
Honorable mention: McCormick & Schmicks.

Thanks for the recommendation on The Smokehouse...I'll check them out.

I love the beef-n-cheddar croissant at Portillo's too...and another Chicago-area joint called Brooster's Chicken...my god, I can't get enough of their chicken.

When visiting my parents who now live in Canada, Earl's and Montana's are the two places we usually go out for a nicer meal.

Unlike most people, I just don't have much of a problem with Chili's and TGI Friday's. I rather like Friday's, to be honest.

Diaphanous Aug 26, 2006 8:20 pm

P.F. Chang's and In 'N Out are reliably good, but I've eaten a couple times at Applebee's and never liked the food there.

Originally Posted by xanthuos
I rather like Friday's, to be honest.

We've eaten there twice recently and at both locations, the food and service were very good.

mattkorey Aug 28, 2006 6:05 pm

I think P.F. Changs is delicious. Their lemon scallops is one of my very favorite things, snobby or not. They don't have one here in San Francisco, but they are in the suburbs all around us, so we make the odd pilgrimage just to go there on ocassion. And being from Dallas we know our chain restaurants. The entire Papas line is good, from burger to seafood to barbeque.

Kagehitokiri Aug 28, 2006 8:47 pm

Great American Restaurants, group of about 6 in Northern Virginia. Best crabcakes at a chain restaurant, all food/service is great, prices very reasonable.

DENchick Sep 1, 2006 8:38 pm

Noodles, Inc.!

outoftown Sep 3, 2006 11:13 pm

North Carolina restaurant chains
 
Here in NC, the 4-restaurant (chain?) Lucky32 in Greensboro, Cary, Raleigh and Winston-Salem is excellent. http://www.lucky32.com/
and the five Rocky Top Hospitality Restaurants (I've enjoyed Michael Deans) http://www.rockytophospitality.com/facilities.asp
are a nice change of pace from the Ruth Chris, Angus Barn or 42nd St. Oyster Bar that business travelers frequent in the triangle area. My favorite local chain were the restaurants run by Giorgios Bakatsias, til he got busted for tax problems. When he is not womanizing, he is one fantastic cook. His George's Garage http://www.ghgrestaurants.com/garage/garage.html and Cafe Parizade http://www.ghgrestaurants.com/pariza...estaurant.html in Durham are the remaining restaurants and are both outstanding.

-outoftown

shah1md Sep 5, 2006 9:44 pm

a few more places
 
cheap filling food:
in and out
del taco (esp. the one in barstow, ca)

sit down ordering:
p.f. changs (decent and less chance of bichi bichi)
cpk (consistent and great with a good local/season beer)

Sweet Willie Jan 30, 2010 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by rrz518 (Post 3449116)
I can't believe no one has thought of China Grill. NYC, Miami, Las vegas

PF Changs is an OK runner up, but CG is stunning.

PERHAPS the China Grill NYC or Vegas locations, the Chicago China Grill restaurant is terrible, just went last night

Crappy Service and WAY too much $$ for the quality:

Mid 30's waitress calling my wife (mid 40's) "baby" as in "Oh I'm sorry baby, I'll bring the drink you asked for", didn't listen well to our questions about the menu, brought out wrong entrees, poor & incorrect pacing of items ordered. Acoustics in the restaurant stink, not easy to hear your partner.

Lamb Ribs - could have been a stellar item but they put the plum sauce on way too early so it burnt rather than caramelized.
Lobster pancakes - very good item.
Drunken Chicken - so f'in dry, not good at all.
Duck Fried Rice - decent fried rice with good amounts of duck in it.

For the above & 3 drinks, I can think of MUCH better places to spend $150. Won't be back.

jbcarioca Feb 18, 2010 6:08 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 3451283)
The Cheesecake is OK. I've eaten at the one in Beverly Hills several times. But as the reviewer you quoted says, it's mid-market. The service to me is a step below what you should get with the prices you pay. And with the huge menu that they have, some dishes are good and others so-so.

And what does he mean about mid-market chains in France? There aren't any. The only thing close might be Hippo but I rate them lower than a TGIF.

Stimpy, for shame! There are Flunch, Melodine (both same owner), the lunchstands in Lafayette Gourment (great!), the Crespi restaurants (La Pizza) and dozens more. France also has excellent Routiers, most of which are parts of chains. Just because they're chains does not mean one must accept US prefabricated food. We do not want to talk of Quick and the other French McDonds imitations because there are so many McDo with decent beer to be had in France, all with the genuine US stale grease smells.

sobore Feb 18, 2010 6:13 am

Another vote for Culvers! Consistently decent food and the frozen custard doesn’t hurt either! :p

stimpy Feb 18, 2010 6:18 am


Originally Posted by jbcarioca (Post 13412874)
Stimpy, for shame! There are Flunch, Melodine (both same owner), the lunchstands in Lafayette Gourment (great!), the Crespi restaurants (La Pizza) and dozens more.

I guess I rate those as low end in comparison (like Hippo) with US mid-level chains. But I don't really know as you will never find me in one of those places. There are soooooo many non-chain restaurants in every town in France. Why go to a chain? If you are stuck in muggle-buggle suburban US, you often have no choice.

ILuvParis Feb 18, 2010 6:53 am


Originally Posted by sobore (Post 13412888)
Another vote for Culvers! Consistently decent food and the frozen custard doesn’t hurt either! :p

One of the great joys in life is a strawberry shake at Culver's (that is, after I have a butter burger and I sample the flavor of the day!) :)

iuchris Feb 18, 2010 8:16 am

PF Changs
J Alexander
In and Out
Steak and Shake
McDonald's Fries (when cooked properly and not oversalted)
Culver's

N965VJ Feb 18, 2010 8:40 am

Culver’s, really? From the same forum that looks down at Applebees? :p I ate there once and it seemed mediocre. I guess the ice cream and custard must make up for it, but I don’t have a sweet tooth.

ILuvParis Feb 18, 2010 9:06 am


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 13413686)
Culver’s, really? From the same forum that looks down at Applebees? :p I ate there once and it seemed mediocre. I guess the ice cream and custard must make up for it, but I don’t have a sweet tooth.

:) I wouldn't set foot in Applebee's but love Culver's!

chanp Feb 18, 2010 9:07 am

I like PF Chang's, because they offer brown rice and In and Out burger, so yums!

DullesJason Feb 18, 2010 12:42 pm

Sit down:

P.F. Chang's
Maccaroni Grill

Fast food:

Fudrucker's
Five Guy's
Chipotle

Then there are the high priced steak chains, which are always good: Capital Grille, Morton's, Ruth's Cris, etc.

jbcarioca Feb 18, 2010 1:11 pm

OK, here they are:

Nobu
Houston's
Wagamama
Curry House

I could do more but four is enough

mauld Feb 18, 2010 5:50 pm

My votes would go with PF Chang's, Bonefish Grill and Cheesecake Factory. Those 3 are great for solo dining at the bar (or in the case of BFG also at communal tables).

CMK10 Feb 18, 2010 7:54 pm

I'm a fan of Texas Roadhouse. I find the atmosphere to be hokey and often obnoxious (and I'm really annoyed they have Shiner Bock signs and no Shiner Bock) but I think the food is of decent quality. Plus, the prices aren't bad. And who can say no to unlimited peanuts?

wanderingviolet Feb 19, 2010 8:17 am

Higher end/Sit down
McCormick and Schmick's-love the bar menu for happy hour, Alaskan crab legs in the summer and the mussels.
The Melting Pot-fun experience unless the table next to you decided to bring 3 children under 5. Young kids, sharp objects, boiling liquid and raw meat are always a good combo.

Casual/fast food
Panera-good soup/salad lunch
Five guys-good greasy diner style burger
Le Pain Quotidien- good yuppie breakfast

EveryPointCounts Feb 24, 2010 2:23 am

McDonalds
Teriyaki Boy
Famiglia Pizzeria

Airokid Feb 26, 2010 3:58 pm

High-End:
Capitol Grille
Fleming's

Casual/Take out:
Friday's (the ones by me arent bad)
Pei Wei (owned by PF changs - DELICIOUS)
Five Guys
PJ Welihans (PHL area)

Daawgon Feb 26, 2010 11:26 pm

If you live in Middle America or Southern California, there is little else than chains. I know of a handful that I would call fairly good, but I know of hundreds that are awful. Usually the more they advertise the worse they are - Applebees, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Marie Calendars to name but a few of the offenders.

My favorite chain is right here in Portland, Oregon - Burgerville! What other burger chain made Gourmet Magazine?


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