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peteropny Jun 14, 2004 5:15 pm


Originally Posted by DaDOKin DC
Same here for me while I was at Penn (that's Univ of Pennsylvania, NOT Penn State, to you non-locals).

LOL - I have to say the same thing. When were you there? I'm Undergrad 1985.

Darren Jun 14, 2004 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by DaDOKin DC
Come to think of it, most of the best cheesesteaks I have eaten were from outside food stands. ummm, I see a research paper on this . . . or maybe a documentary "Steak Wit' " :D

Too late. :) Well, not techically a research paper I suppose.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/ent...3831957.htm?1c

I have never tried Johns becasue I have no reason or opportunity to be in Philly during the day during the week. One of the more interesting ones in there, imo, is Donkey's Steaks. They are right that the chicken steaks are excellent but the beef steaks are not very good. But Fairview, Camden, is not for the uninitiated so I don't reccommend going as a tourist.

hershey Jun 15, 2004 11:04 am

I have not yet had a bad cheesesteak in Philadelphia and good ones are to be found nearly everywhere.

Analise Jun 15, 2004 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster
Sadly, that is typical of the lack of education available to those who attend second-rate institutions. (To wit, any university not located in Mercer County, N.J.)

Not all of us are as fortunate as you to attend Mercer County Community College.... :cool:

Dovster Jun 15, 2004 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by Analise
Not all of us are as fortunate as you to attend Mercer County Community College.... :cool:

And to think -- I had officially named Analise on the Dl Forum as my CAR -- Cute Alluring Republican. :(

Oh well, it could have been worse. She could have said I spent my time in Trenton State Prison.

Herb687 Jun 15, 2004 12:46 pm

"Hurrah, Hurrah, Pennsylvan-I-a..."
 

Originally Posted by peteropny
LOL - I have to say the same thing. When were you there? I'm Undergrad 1985.

Not directed at me but I'll answer anyway. W'99 here! Go Quakers!

And just to keep this slightly on-topic. When I was there, Sophie's food truck around 34th/Walnut was about the best mobile cheesesteak option near campus. Sadly, I don't think Sophie is in business anymore.

Analise Jun 15, 2004 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster
And to think -- I had officially named Analise on the Dl Forum as my CAR -- Cute Alluring Republican. :(

Oh well, it could have been worse. She could have said I spent my time in Trenton State Prison.

There is life beyond Nassau Street, my dearest. :) And I'll always try to be your cute alluring republican.

DaDOKin DC Jun 15, 2004 10:06 pm

Not to overly pedantic . . .
 

Originally Posted by Dovster
Scrapple is not native Philadelphian. It was invented in Lancaster County by the Pennsylvania Dutch. (edited by DaDOK)

Actually, the first Germans in America settled in the Delaware River Valley c. 1630 and the first German-American community in the US was in "Germantown", founded in 1683, and now a part of Philadelphia.

As Philly became more 'urban' and Anglo, the Germans migrated westward to the area now known as 'PA Durch country' (Lancaster and Berks Counties) and southward (to North Carolina, around Bern and Winston-Salem). The 'cuisine' known as PA Dutch, including scrapple, did not become popularized until the 18th C., when the area was well-established. But the origins of the people, and presumably their cuisine, reach back to the original settlement.

So there, smarty pants! ;)

DaDOKin DC Jun 15, 2004 10:20 pm


Originally Posted by peteropny
LOL - I have to say the same thing. When were you there? I'm Undergrad 1985.

My undergraduate was at St Joseph's Univ '81.
I did a post-doc at HUP in 1991-92.

Dovster Jun 15, 2004 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by DaDOKin DC
the first German-American community in the US was in "Germantown", founded in 1683, and now a part of Philadelphia... The 'cuisine' known as PA Dutch, including scrapple, did not become popularized until the 18th C., when the area was well-established. But the origins of the people, and presumably their cuisine, reach back to the original settlement.

So, Grasshopper, you attempt to enter the mysterious discipline of history?

Scrapple, in fact, was invented in the Lower Rhine village of Schweinkuss in 1653 by Franz Doppelganger, the local idiot, who had nothing better to do.

A few years later, having been shunned by his neighbors for a rather scandalous incident involving his minister's yak and an elder's berry bush, Doppelganger emigrated to Pennsylvania. Then he immigrated to Pennsylvania -- just to prove he could do it both ways.

He first attempted to peddle scrapple to tourists in New Hope (Bucks County) but was thwarted by the fact that the town had not yet been founded.

Never one to give up, Doppelganger put his scrapple leftovers (of which there were always a great amount as nobody wanted to eat it) into tubes, declared them to be "hot dogs", and tried to make his fortune by selling them to people waiting for the Phillies to start playing major league ball.

(Indeed, to this very day there are people waiting for the Phillies to start playing major league ball.)

Needless to say, hot dogs were an immediate failure, which made them the ideal official food of the Phillies. However, Doppelganger was able to scrape out a living by selling hot pretzels covered with mustard and later became rich by replacing that condiment with Cholula Hot Sauce
as shown in this thread.


Originally Posted by DaDOKin DC
My undergraduate was at St Joseph's Univ '81.

I have always loved their aspirin.

Canarsie Jun 15, 2004 11:44 pm


Originally Posted by Analise
Not all of us are as fortunate as you to attend Mercer County Community College....

Please show some Mercer to the Dovster, but don’t have too much pity on him, as there is a lot at cheesesteak here...

Analise Jun 16, 2004 8:10 am


Originally Posted by Canarsie
Please show some Mercer to the Dovster, but don’t have too much pity on him, as there is a lot at cheesesteak here...

Dovster is very special -- he knows how I feel. :)

Dovster Jun 16, 2004 8:14 am


Originally Posted by Analise
he knows how I feel.

Now you've done it, Analise. Never, ever, make a statement like that in a thread in which Punster Canarsie is participating!

Canarsie Jun 16, 2004 8:17 am


Originally Posted by Analise
Dovster is very special -- he knows how I feel. :)

...with your hands, like everybody else usually feels?

Hey, Dovster warned you...

Analise Jun 16, 2004 8:20 am

Clever chit-chat. Do continue. :cool:


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