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ILuvParis Dec 14, 2009 8:25 am
Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach (Post 12979531)
Here's a bit of news about the Argentinean beef industry.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34368080...orld_business/

Looks like Argentina will have to actually import beef in a few years because of all the conversion of grazing land to soya bean production (which is ironically exported to feed cattle in Europe and China).

Anecdotally, my partner and I found that the beef we were served in Argentina this past few weeks was overall much fibrous and not as nice as what we had in early 2003.
We went to my favorite places, El Establo (twice) and La Brigada, last week and didn't find this to be the case. Amazing lomo. BTW, does anyone understand why waiters in Buenos Aires cut everything with a SPOON? Is it to demonstrate how tender the meat is? Are the edges of those spoons sharpened? :D

YVR Cockroach Dec 14, 2009 12:11 pm
Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 12982561)
We went to my favorite places, El Establo (twice) and La Brigada, last week and didn't find this to be the case. Amazing lomo. BTW, does anyone understand why waiters in Buenos Aires cut everything with a SPOON? Is it to demonstrate how tender the meat is? Are the edges of those spoons sharpened? :D
You probably went to a better restaurant that serves Aberdeen and red Anguses instead of brahmin/texas Long Horn type cows (preferred for growing up north). We only had one night in Bs As and chose some place near our hotel in the theatre district that appeared popular with locals. Just a random sample proved disappointing. The meat served at a popular restaurant (highly recommended by our host) in the heart of cattle-raising country wasn't much better.

rbittar Jul 13, 2010 11:03 pm
Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 2699402)
On a trip to Europe, I noticed a plethora of restaurants touting Argentine beef and steaks.

I have never tried Argentine beef, as I think I will wait until I am able to get to Argentina one day to sample the genuine article.

I was wondering if anybody has tried both Argentine beef and American beef? If so, which is better — or, at least, what are the differences? What makes Argentine beef distinctive?
I tried both and all I can say is that there are a HUGE difference...Argentina's beef is one of the best I tried traveling around the world.

ILuvParis Jul 14, 2010 8:29 am
Originally Posted by rbittar (Post 14296444)
I tried both and all I can say is that there are a HUGE difference...Argentina's beef is one of the best I tried traveling around the world.
I rather doubt that very much of the beef in Argentine restaurants in Europe is from Argentina. If it is, it loses something on the trip. :D

alexgattas Apr 12, 2011 5:28 am
Differences between beef
 
I have tried Argentinian beef, Its is very flavorful, lean and tender. In comparison to USDA beef. Now, you can find the same quality beef here in the United States. You just have to pay a little more out of pocket. What you are looking for is free range grass fed black angus cattle. The black Angus cattle is a scottish breed and was introduced to Argentina 16th century. Most beef producers from Argentina raise their cattle in Las Pampas, a large and rich grasslands in central Argentina. The cattle are able to free range and eat nothing but grass.

If you do have a chance to travel to Argentina, do by all means. Try it first hand. And if the beef doesn't thrill you the culture and wine will. http://youtu.be/5d4l10P8g3M?hd=1

Also I do enjoy Kobe Beef from Kobe, Japan. However, it is very expensive. Usually out of my price range.

ILuvParis Apr 14, 2011 2:55 pm
Originally Posted by alexgattas (Post 16203415)
I have tried Argentinian beef, Its is very flavorful, lean and tender. In comparison to USDA beef. Now, you can find the same quality beef here in the United States. You just have to pay a little more out of pocket. What you are looking for is free range grass fed black angus cattle. The black Angus cattle is a scottish breed and was introduced to Argentina 16th century. Most beef producers from Argentina raise their cattle in Las Pampas, a large and rich grasslands in central Argentina. The cattle are able to free range and eat nothing but grass.

If you do have a chance to travel to Argentina, do by all means. Try it first hand. And if the beef doesn't thrill you the culture and wine will. http://youtu.be/5d4l10P8g3M?hd=1

Also I do enjoy Kobe Beef from Kobe, Japan. However, it is very expensive. Usually out of my price range.
Is that why those Scottish steak houses in London are so good? :p

GadgetFreak Apr 14, 2011 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Originally Posted by alexgattas (Post 16203415)
I have tried Argentinian beef, Its is very flavorful, lean and tender. In comparison to USDA beef. Now, you can find the same quality beef here in the United States. You just have to pay a little more out of pocket. What you are looking for is free range grass fed black angus cattle. The black Angus cattle is a scottish breed and was introduced to Argentina 16th century. Most beef producers from Argentina raise their cattle in Las Pampas, a large and rich grasslands in central Argentina. The cattle are able to free range and eat nothing but grass.

If you do have a chance to travel to Argentina, do by all means. Try it first hand. And if the beef doesn't thrill you the culture and wine will. http://youtu.be/5d4l10P8g3M?hd=1

Also I do enjoy Kobe Beef from Kobe, Japan. However, it is very expensive. Usually out of my price range.
Is that why those Scottish steak houses in London are so good? :p
I got a chuckle out of that. But it is why the Australian beef I sometimes get is so good and had less calories than typical US beef.

GadgetFreak Apr 14, 2011 10:11 pm
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Sorry. Dupe.

Eastbay1K Apr 14, 2011 10:18 pm
Originally Posted by alexgattas (Post 16203415)
Most beef producers from Argentina raise their cattle in Las Pampas, a large and rich grasslands in central Argentina. The cattle are able to free range and eat nothing but grass.
Unfortunately, that is only about half the beef in Argentina now. The rest is polluted on feed lots. A crime, but that is how it is. Notwithstanding this, a delicious grass fed argentine steak is almost reason enough for a trip.

HIDDY Apr 15, 2011 7:31 am
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 16221518)
Unfortunately, that is only about half the beef in Argentina now. The rest is polluted on feed lots. A crime, but that is how it is. Notwithstanding this, a delicious grass fed argentine steak is almost reason enough for a trip.
Indeed....a practice which is unfortunately on the rise.

Ours are free to roam and are totally organic although we don't sell them as such.

SFflyer123 May 14, 2011 6:12 pm
Can I get it in the states?
 
Originally Posted by rbittar (Post 14296444)
I tried both and all I can say is that there are a HUGE difference...Argentina's beef is one of the best I tried traveling around the world.
Short of going to Argentina, can we get argentinian beef here in the USA? I'd like to visit Buenos Aires one day, but that's not for a while.

Thanks.

Eastbay1K May 14, 2011 6:28 pm
Originally Posted by SFflyer123 (Post 16386770)
Short of going to Argentina, can we get argentinian beef here in the USA? I'd like to visit Buenos Aires one day, but that's not for a while.

Thanks.
I never see it - but what I do see is beef from Uruguay. Readily available at Berkeley Bowl and a number of other places (I see you are SFO based).


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