Consolidated "Michelin Restaurants" thread
Mar 12, 2019, 9:43 am
#1591
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I probably sound like a broken record on this thread but CT BF is the best restaurant in the city right now, period. They are at their peak and prime, having gone countless times over the past 2 years.
Per Se, despite some trip ups in the past years that kept me from going for awhile, is now in a very good place in my opinion. Had my birthday dinner there a month back and it was wonderful, but not at the level of wow! as CTBF. If the wife likes classic french though, I can't think of a better place. Probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite 3 star in the city (tied with Le Bernardin in my mind but I haven't been there in over a year so I'd have to see what it's like nowadays).
Ko is interesting, a whole different beast than the other restaurants in the category. I really liked the most of it, but failed to love any dish. Love the quirky ambiance and the experimentation though. I wouldn't consider it a special occasion dinner venue though, despite the high price and 2*.
Would skip Marea honestly unless you really need pasta and need to be in the midtown area. Two expensive dinners and left with nothing but disappointment and regret both times. Not apples-to-apples in terms of cuisine, but I would suggest places like the Bar Room at the Modern for a similar (or less) price tag and much MUCH better service/ambiance in the same area as Marea.
Have a wonderful time!
Per Se, despite some trip ups in the past years that kept me from going for awhile, is now in a very good place in my opinion. Had my birthday dinner there a month back and it was wonderful, but not at the level of wow! as CTBF. If the wife likes classic french though, I can't think of a better place. Probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite 3 star in the city (tied with Le Bernardin in my mind but I haven't been there in over a year so I'd have to see what it's like nowadays).
Ko is interesting, a whole different beast than the other restaurants in the category. I really liked the most of it, but failed to love any dish. Love the quirky ambiance and the experimentation though. I wouldn't consider it a special occasion dinner venue though, despite the high price and 2*.
Would skip Marea honestly unless you really need pasta and need to be in the midtown area. Two expensive dinners and left with nothing but disappointment and regret both times. Not apples-to-apples in terms of cuisine, but I would suggest places like the Bar Room at the Modern for a similar (or less) price tag and much MUCH better service/ambiance in the same area as Marea.
Have a wonderful time!
I am thinking of doing lunch at Le Coucou the same day so that the wife can get her French fix. I hear great things.
Marea would be the one I am most likely to cut out of the meals I am planning - really I am only interested in their signature octopus and bone marrow pasta haha.
Mar 12, 2019, 11:39 am
#1592
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Sorry! Somehow I totally missed your response.
I just reached out to StR's concierge team and they heard that Chef Ramirez might be away first 2 weeks of July which is when I plan to go. If that's the case, that makes my decision easier as I would only want to go if Chef was there (plus I hear that when he's away they're actually closed).
I'm actually thinking of doing Le Coucou for lunch that same day to get the wife her French fix. We did Le Bernardin last time and absolutely loved it! Met Chef Eric Ripert as well which is a bonus.
Thanks for your feedback!
I just reached out to StR's concierge team and they heard that Chef Ramirez might be away first 2 weeks of July which is when I plan to go. If that's the case, that makes my decision easier as I would only want to go if Chef was there (plus I hear that when he's away they're actually closed).
I'm actually thinking of doing Le Coucou for lunch that same day to get the wife her French fix. We did Le Bernardin last time and absolutely loved it! Met Chef Eric Ripert as well which is a bonus.
Thanks for your feedback!
Mar 12, 2019, 12:46 pm
#1593
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You're really swaying me towards CT BF! That said StR concierge heard that Chef Ramirez might be away when I plan to visit which would make me go to Ko by default. If that's not the case, I would say I'm in favour of CT BF 60/40 at this point.
I am thinking of doing lunch at Le Coucou the same day so that the wife can get her French fix. I hear great things.
Marea would be the one I am most likely to cut out of the meals I am planning - really I am only interested in their signature octopus and bone marrow pasta haha.
I am thinking of doing lunch at Le Coucou the same day so that the wife can get her French fix. I hear great things.
Marea would be the one I am most likely to cut out of the meals I am planning - really I am only interested in their signature octopus and bone marrow pasta haha.
Table 55 isn’t cheap at a table minimum of $2500, but it was truly sublime and exceptional and so much fun in EVERY way. We had 3 of us to enjoy the experience, so it wasn’t that much more expensive than one of these crazy tasting menus and wine pairings, either. My review in case you’re interested:
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...ular-stay-2408
Mar 12, 2019, 5:24 pm
#1594
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I know it isn’t rated by Michelin, but I can tell you that our Table 55 experience at the King Cole Bar ar the StR New York was perhaps the best overall dining and beverage experience we’ve ever enjoyed: anywhere. Considering we dined the next night at disappointing 3* EMP but also have dined at 21 Michelin stars in Japan, every Michelin 2-3* restaurant in SF/Napa/Sonoma, including most several times, 3* Le Calandre, 3* Enoteca Pincchioirri, and almost a third of the Pellegrino too 100 list—most in just the last year or two—I think we have some decent perspective!
Table 55 isn’t cheap at a table minimum of $2500, but it was truly sublime and exceptional and so much fun in EVERY way. We had 3 of us to enjoy the experience, so it wasn’t that much more expensive than one of these crazy tasting menus and wine pairings, either. My review in case you’re interested:
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...ular-stay-2408
Mar 12, 2019, 6:27 pm
#1595
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Mar 12, 2019, 7:03 pm
#1596
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Well, it turns out that Michelin got paid to expand their presence in California.
Last edited by offerendum; Mar 13, 2019 at 2:17 am
Mar 12, 2019, 8:18 pm
#1597
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Originally Posted by EATER LA
... it’s long been understood that the only way the tire company actually pays for their meals is with the help of the deep-pocketed tourism boards for the regions they cover.
Mar 13, 2019, 9:23 am
#1598
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I know it isn’t rated by Michelin, but I can tell you that our Table 55 experience at the King Cole Bar ar the StR New York was perhaps the best overall dining and beverage experience we’ve ever enjoyed: anywhere. Considering we dined the next night at disappointing 3* EMP but also have dined at 21 Michelin stars in Japan, every Michelin 2-3* restaurant in SF/Napa/Sonoma, including most several times, 3* Le Calandre, 3* Enoteca Pincchioirri, and almost a third of the Pellegrino too 100 list—most in just the last year or two—I think we have some decent perspective!
Table 55 isn’t cheap at a table minimum of $2500, but it was truly sublime and exceptional and so much fun in EVERY way. We had 3 of us to enjoy the experience, so it wasn’t that much more expensive than one of these crazy tasting menus and wine pairings, either. My review in case you’re interested:
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...ular-stay-2408
Funny enough, I have nearly the exact sentiments you had regarding EMP - down to the specific dishes I thought were the only two memorable dishes of the night (the caviar course and the duck).
While Table 55 is definitely out of my price range, I definitely plan to visit the King Cole Bar during my stay and make use of my F&B credit from the destination fee.
I actually had a reservation for Le Calandre last time I was in Italy cause I really wanted to try that famous saffron risotto but logistically it didn't work out so I ended up cancelling my reservation. Hopefully one day!
Mar 14, 2019, 6:19 pm
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There are three level offered in the restaurant which can be booked between 12:30 and 14:30 and again between 19:30 and 22:30. Four courses for 120€, six courses for 180€ and a "Complete Proposal" consisting of the entire menu, 9 courses, for 250€ per person.
Mar 14, 2019, 7:47 pm
#1601
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I'll be in Umbria in June and would love to check this place out. I will report back if we make it down there.
Also seeing if we can fit in La Parolina while we are in the area.
Also seeing if we can fit in La Parolina while we are in the area.
Last edited by Bohemian1; Mar 14, 2019 at 8:04 pm
Mar 15, 2019, 3:39 am
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No personal experience, however, from their website it would appear as if the ConTatto Lunch at the Rock Room consists of "2 salted courses from the à la carte Tradition, Emotion, one dessert and 1 wine glass pairing included. It is 55€ per person.
There are three level offered in the restaurant which can be booked between 12:30 and 14:30 and again between 19:30 and 22:30. Four courses for 120€, six courses for 180€ and a "Complete Proposal" consisting of the entire menu, 9 courses, for 250€ per person.
There are three level offered in the restaurant which can be booked between 12:30 and 14:30 and again between 19:30 and 22:30. Four courses for 120€, six courses for 180€ and a "Complete Proposal" consisting of the entire menu, 9 courses, for 250€ per person.
Mar 24, 2019, 4:53 pm
#1604
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I know it isn’t rated by Michelin, but I can tell you that our Table 55 experience at the King Cole Bar ar the StR New York was perhaps the best overall dining and beverage experience we’ve ever enjoyed: anywhere. Considering we dined the next night at disappointing 3* EMP but also have dined at 21 Michelin stars in Japan, every Michelin 2-3* restaurant in SF/Napa/Sonoma, including most several times, 3* Le Calandre, 3* Enoteca Pincchioirri, and almost a third of the Pellegrino too 100 list—most in just the last year or two—I think we have some decent perspective!
Table 55 isn’t cheap at a table minimum of $2500, but it was truly sublime and exceptional and so much fun in EVERY way. We had 3 of us to enjoy the experience, so it wasn’t that much more expensive than one of these crazy tasting menus and wine pairings, either. My review in case you’re interested:
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...ular-stay-2408
Honestly, given the wines you drank at Table 55 I'm surprised the price wasn't higher. (You two were clearly pretty high yourselves with all that wine ...
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Mar 25, 2019, 6:00 pm
#1605
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Had a business dinner at Marea (2 stars) last week. It had been a long time since I was there - forgot how delicious the food is without being overly complicated. ^