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corky May 16, 2021 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by cardsqc (Post 33244148)
I've yet to find a pre-made mix for margaritas that I like unfortunately. Most of them are indeed too sickly sweet. So I'm stuck making my own mix, which means I don't drink them as much as I'd probably like :). Personally, while it might sound a bit weird, what I've used is basically an equal mix of lemon juice, sugar, and water, then add half a lime per drink, plus some orange juice, then of course the tequila and some sort of orange liqueur (basically, I use what I have, whether it's cointreau (probably my most common), patron citronge, curacao, or grand marnier. My wife tends not to like the grand marnier, so we haven't used that in a while. While there's sugar in it, to me at least it doesn't come out as sickly sweet, and with the orange juice, takes some of the edge off the harsher lime and lemon juices. I think I got the recipe when I was originally trying to recreate a decent margarita I'd had on a cruise ship, and I think at least Patron listed it as a recipe for a while.

On America's Test Kitchen yesterday, they made margaritas. They used both lemon and lime juice for the sour part but also added the zest of both which I think sounds great. They let the juices, zest and superfine sugar sit in the fridge for hours and then strained it. I have to try it---zest adds so much flavor. They used curacao for the orange. I think it was equal parts tequila, sour mix, and curacao.

LapLap May 17, 2021 12:43 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 33256146)
On America's Test Kitchen yesterday, they made margaritas. They used both lemon and lime juice for the sour part but also added the zest of both which I think sounds great. They let the juices, zest and superfine sugar sit in the fridge for hours and then strained it. I have to try it---zest adds so much flavor. They used curacao for the orange. I think it was equal parts tequila, sour mix, and curacao.

I have a book by Dorie Greenspan where she shares a technique taught to her by Pierre Hermé; when a recipe calls for citrus zest and sugar, spend a minute or so massaging the grated zest into the sugar, it releases the oils and the sugar becomes intoxicatingly aromatic. Doesn’t take long and you can then pour the juices in and let it sit as the recipe asks.

Same procedure for releasing zest oils can be done with salt.

BamaVol May 17, 2021 11:08 am


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 33209270)
The two minutes of prep (melting sugar and adding water) and Luxardo pays off in spades! No one can be that lazy! 😂

My father in law makes his from scratch, starting with a single sugar cube. I thought it was pretty good.

I just came from Publix where I noticed an OF mix on the shelf and wondered why.

The tiki bar where we are staying made a Rum Runner for Mrs BV from a mix. I need to take a closer look: it was pretty good, with the exception of the whipped cream on top (???).

NotDuncan May 18, 2021 7:54 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 33219592)
I like just a little simple syrup to take the sour edge off the lime juice.

A little trick to get the sour edge off, just a tiny splash of fresh orange juice instead. :tu:

My homemade margaritas are....two parts Hornitos or similar tequila, Anejo or Blanco according to preference, one part Grand Marnier, (absolutely nothing wrong with Cointreau, again, just personal preference), squeeze two halved large limes in, (as corky said somewhere upthread, with a citrus squeezer, it's really easy), and a small splash of fresh squeezed orange juice.

No salt for me, thanks. But, if you want it, ground black Spanish sea salt, please.

LondonElite May 26, 2021 11:28 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 33258435)
My father in law makes his from scratch, starting with a single sugar cube. I thought it was pretty good.

I just came from Publix where I noticed an OF mix on the shelf and wondered why.

The tiki bar where we are staying made a Rum Runner for Mrs BV from a mix. I need to take a closer look: it was pretty good, with the exception of the whipped cream on top (???).

An Old Fashioned is so easy to make, and it's amazing how many places just make a mess of it. I was in a bar in Antigua not long ago and asked for one (yes, should have stuck with rum...) and I got crushed ice, white sugar from the tea service, topped up with bourbon, and a cheap neon cherry on top. I had a chat to the barman after I sent it back and walked him through the steps...

dodgeflyer May 26, 2021 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 33280762)
An Old Fashioned is so easy to make, and it's amazing how many places just make a mess of it. I was in a bar in Antigua not long ago and asked for one (yes, should have stuck with rum...) and I got crushed ice, white sugar from the tea service, topped up with bourbon, and a cheap neon cherry on top. I had a chat to the barman after I sent it back and walked him through the steps...

Doesn’t beat my order for a very dry gin martini with a twist, which ended up being vermouth (martini bianco) on ice.

cmd320 May 26, 2021 5:24 pm

I'd echo others opinions that for an Old Fashioned I wouldn't bother with a mix. It's a super easy drink to make yourself without a mix and best of all, almost all the ingredients are shelf-stable so you're not going to waste a bunch of mixers/fruits/juices, etc. if you go a few days or more without drinking at home.

-decent bourbon (I like Woodford for an OF)
-Angostura bitters
-light brown sugar cubes
-orange peel (really the only thing that's not shelf stable)

Grab those items, keep them in stock, and you'll be able to make a drink in just a minute or two. It'll come out far better than any mix you're ever going to find.

On the whole, I'm not a fan of drink mixes in general, though I get if you're trying to have margaritas or something that requires a number of different juices, there's an efficiency factor there. Old Fashioneds don't really fall into that group though.

corky May 26, 2021 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by cmd320 (Post 33281642)
I'd echo others opinions that for an Old Fashioned I wouldn't bother with a mix. It's a super easy drink to make yourself without a mix and best of all, almost all the ingredients are shelf-stable so you're not going to waste a bunch of mixers/fruits/juices, etc. if you go a few days or more without drinking at home.

-decent bourbon (I like Woodford for an OF)
-Angostura bitters
-light brown sugar cubes
-orange peel (really the only thing that's not shelf stable)

Grab those items, keep them in stock, and you'll be able to make a drink in just a minute or two. It'll come out far better than any mix you're ever going to find.

On the whole, I'm not a fan of drink mixes in general, though I get if you're trying to have margaritas or something that requires a number of different juices, there's an efficiency factor there. Old Fashioneds don't really fall into that group though.

I have not seen brown sugar cubes...I think I have only had an old fashioned with white but brown sounds good....adds to the caramel flavor.

LondonElite May 27, 2021 7:12 am


Originally Posted by dodgeflyer (Post 33281516)
Doesn’t beat my order for a very dry gin martini with a twist, which ended up being vermouth (martini bianco) on ice.

Yes, I've had this one happen to me a few times as well!

gfunkdave May 27, 2021 10:34 am


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 33280762)
An Old Fashioned is so easy to make, and it's amazing how many places just make a mess of it. I was in a bar in Antigua not long ago and asked for one (yes, should have stuck with rum...) and I got crushed ice, white sugar from the tea service, topped up with bourbon, and a cheap neon cherry on top. I had a chat to the barman after I sent it back and walked him through the steps...

To be fair, it doesn't seem like an Old Fashioned is much of a "tropical" cocktail... :)

BamaVol May 29, 2021 10:22 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 33283359)
To be fair, it doesn't seem like an Old Fashioned is much of a "tropical" cocktail... :)

Maybe if you stick a little umbrella in it.

corky May 29, 2021 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 33280762)
An Old Fashioned is so easy to make, and it's amazing how many places just make a mess of it. I was in a bar in Antigua not long ago and asked for one (yes, should have stuck with rum...) and I got crushed ice, white sugar from the tea service, topped up with bourbon, and a cheap neon cherry on top. I had a chat to the barman after I sent it back and walked him through the steps...

I was out to dinner last week with some friends at a restaurant called Steak & Whiskey (https://www.steakandwhisky.com/) so you would expect that they know how to serve drinks. My friend and I each ordered the Smoke & Bourbon which is basically an old fashioned with smoke on top under an inverted glass. I thought mine was fine but my friend was having a fit because there were several ice cubes in our drinks. She insisted that an old fashioned should only ever have one big cube and sent hers back. They didn't have giant cubes but they remade it with only a couple ice cubes. I don't mind a little ice melting into my drink but she was appalled. lol.
BTW, I made a margarita last night and added lime zest....I really liked it. I think that I will make some lime zest simple syrup which would be even better.

gfunkdave Jun 5, 2021 11:54 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 33288570)
I was out to dinner last week with some friends at a restaurant called Steak & Whiskey (https://www.steakandwhisky.com/) so you would expect that they know how to serve drinks. My friend and I each ordered the Smoke & Bourbon which is basically an old fashioned with smoke on top under an inverted glass. I thought mine was fine but my friend was having a fit because there were several ice cubes in our drinks. She insisted that an old fashioned should only ever have one big cube and sent hers back. They didn't have giant cubes but they remade it with only a couple ice cubes. I don't mind a little ice melting into my drink but she was appalled. lol.
BTW, I made a margarita last night and added lime zest....I really liked it. I think that I will make some lime zest simple syrup which would be even better.

Haha big cubes are a craft cocktail thing. It’s still an old fashioned if you use regular ice. I think a single big cube results in the drink being cold but minimizes the amount of ice that melts in it. Tell your friend that Gfunkdave thinks she’s silly. :D

corky Jun 5, 2021 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 33305764)
Haha big cubes are a craft cocktail thing. It’s still an old fashioned if you use regular ice. I think a single big cube results in the drink being cold but minimizes the amount of ice that melts in it. Tell your friend that Gfunkdave thinks she’s silly. :D

LOL---our other friend who was out with her that night were texting the next day about how nuts we think she is. Not to her face though---she wouldn't think we were funny. She wouldn't let it go either--major crime. I do have those giant square cubes and some giant round ones but I don't really care what goes in my drink except I never like crushed ice in anything.

JBord Jun 7, 2021 4:28 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 33305871)
LOL---our other friend who was out with her that night were texting the next day about how nuts we think she is. Not to her face though---she wouldn't think we were funny. She wouldn't let it go either--major crime. I do have those giant square cubes and some giant round ones but I don't really care what goes in my drink except I never like crushed ice in anything.

I do like the big round ice cubes. But in reality, if your smaller cubes are melting, the real issue is that you aren't drinking it fast enough.
Crushed ice is for kids drinks.


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