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I’m excited to try this steaming cheese!! Fun.
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If I were to try steamed burgers at home, I would boil 1+ cup of water, pour it into my Instant Pot, place burgers inside on a trivet or in a springform, manual them for 0-1 minute, and after a few minutes, quick release. A metal measuring cup for the cheese. I have some packages of grass fed in the freezer. I'll give it a try this week or next.
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Originally Posted by AMflier
(Post 32729070)
Very different processes:
White Castle cooks the burgers on onions on a griddle. In CT, the burgers are cooked in steam cabinets. No griddle involved. Although their marketing department would claim otherwise, I don't consider White Castle burgers steamed. Anyway, if I were in CT for food, I'd go to Pepe's, and have a lobster roll...just not on the same day. |
My child was extremely uninterested in having steamed cheese so there’s a chance that I’ll never know the concept of steamed cheese!
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Originally Posted by gaobest
(Post 32738767)
My child was extremely uninterested in having steamed cheese so there’s a chance that I’ll never know the concept of steamed cheese!
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Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 32738972)
Do you not make sauces and foods in a big pan? Say you have a tomato sauce and meatballs - just as it finishes cooking, add sliced or grated cheese, put a lid on the pan and the steam from the food melts the cheese - far easier than putting it under the grill. Only downside is that the cheese never browns.
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Pre boiled water, trivet, mini loaf pan, seasoned grass fed beef 85/15. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9a49b1b2a.jpeg Four minutes high pressure, rested 10 minutes / natural release, added chunks of sharp cheddar which mostly slid off into the fat/juice, replaced the lid for 10. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6791ea4e7.jpeg Had to scoop out cheese with a spatula. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5b20be85d.jpeg First bite and a middle bite were juicy, the fat and juice ran down my fingers and hand... but the rest of my bites were dry. Gonna tweak the formula for the next round. |
Originally Posted by boxo
(Post 32753182)
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First bite and a middle bite were juicy, the fat and juice ran down my fingers and hand... but the rest of my bites were dry. Gonna tweak the formula for the next round. |
After starting the 4 min high pressure cook, I trimmed and washed the frisee, put a pound of bacon end pieces in the toaster oven, and opened the cheese package and cut blocks. All of that sucked up time and maybe the burger was left steaming too long? I dunno. Tomorrow, I'm going to cut the time.
Originally Posted by gaobest
(Post 32753188)
thank you!! This is great information. I look forward to the update. Did you like the dry parts?
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So, since I’m the one that sent boxo to Ted’s as a former resident of the Meriden/Wallingford area of Connecticut where you find these, let me clear up a few things. Ted’s like K Lamay does use white cheddar for their burgers. It’s a proprietary recipe.
Second, I’d consider the southern “version” of this to be Krystal not White Castle as I don’t remember seeing any White Castles around living down there but Krystals everywhere. Now, for duplicating the steamed cheeseburger... I probably wouldn’t have used an Instant Pot. The temperature was likely too high and that’s why it dried out. The steam cabinets are atmospheric pressure steam or just a little hotter. The cheese is usually in a separate container and it has to be scraped out to be put on the burger. I’ve never had one that was mealy but they do look a little grey. The other thing that could have made it dry was what type of beef was used. I don’t think that they use a lean ground beef which would help it stay moist. |
I thought Ted's uses mozzarella. Anyway, I see what you mean about atmospheric steam. When I try tomorrow, I'll set the iP to 0 minutes and after a couple minutes, quick release. I believe that was my first formula that I didn't follow. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32731406-post17.html
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Okay, wow, atmospheric steam made all the difference. Thank you, Bluehen1 .
I boiled water in my kettle, poured it over the trivet. Set the Instant Pot to 0, left the steam valve all the way open for about 5 minutes at full boil. Turned it off, put the cheese on top, lid back on for a few minutes. The steam was allowed to cook the burger without the high pressure (closed valve) squeezing the juices out. The patty shrunk much less, less grease and juice inside the loaf pan. Every single bite was a juicy mess. I'd call this a success. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4f7aa78e8.jpeg Less shrinkage with the valve open, so it fit the bun better. Added a few bits of bacon today. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bfe8f6191.jpeg Every single bite was a hot juicy mess. |
No Maillard reaction, forget it.
And the only time White Castle becomes acceptable, even good, is after 2 AM and past a certain level of intoxication. |
Having gone to college in the greater Meriden area, this thread makes me somewhat nostalgic, although I have to admit I have never tried a steamed cheeseburger (for starters, I prefer my burgers without cheese). They’re also responsible for the best diner in Middletown CT burning down a few years back—someone left the burger steamer on (fortunately the diner has rebuilt since).
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Originally Posted by Calcifer
(Post 32761109)
Having gone to college in the greater Meriden area, this thread makes me somewhat nostalgic, although I have to admit I have never tried a steamed cheeseburger (for starters, I prefer my burgers without cheese). They’re also responsible for the best diner in Middletown CT burning down a few years back—someone left the burger steamer on (fortunately the diner has rebuilt since).
how did you like the steamed hamburger, no cheese?? |
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