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corky Jul 24, 2019 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by work2fly (Post 31338880)
Seriously, Panda Express?



The same can be said about Olive Garden :rolleyes:

And McDonalds and Burger King and Wendy's.....they all list nutritional info although I am not sure MSG falls under nutritional info or if it has anything to do with sanitary conditions.
It's very simple...no need to go to a chain. Enjoy a mom and pop ethnic restaurant and ask if they use MSG.

gaobest Jul 24, 2019 5:58 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 31339072)
And McDonalds and Burger King and Wendy's.....they all list nutritional info although I am not sure MSG falls under nutritional info or if it has anything to do with sanitary conditions.
It's very simple...no need to go to a chain. Enjoy a mom and pop ethnic restaurant and ask if they use MSG.

sad and true - when I was on WW, I ate a lot at Panera bread because of calorie counts.
I’ll venture that ian’s Favorite dishes are perfectly fine if not better at pf Chang or panda. Plus if he’s getting MSG hangover, then that’s not a great thing.

corky Jul 24, 2019 6:20 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 31339093)


sad and true - when I was on WW, I ate a lot at Panera bread because of calorie counts.
I’ll venture that ian’s Favorite dishes are perfectly fine if not better at pf Chang or panda. Plus if he’s getting MSG hangover, then that’s not a great thing.

My point is that you don't have to eat at a chain to ask about ingredients. I think Panda and pfChang are fine but I would much rather go to my local Chinese restaurant.

enviroian Jul 24, 2019 9:37 pm

Why do the Chinese add this ingredient? Do any other Asian cultures add this? I don't see an issue with Thai or Vietnamese foods.

davie355 Jul 24, 2019 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by enviroian (Post 31339628)
Why do the Chinese add this ingredient? Do any other Asian cultures add this? I don't see an issue with Thai or Vietnamese foods.

It’s just stereotype - MSG is also highly prevalent in American foods. Check the ingredients of your next bag of Doritos....

Plato90s Jul 24, 2019 11:00 pm


Originally Posted by enviroian (Post 31339628)
Why do the Chinese add this ingredient? Do any other Asian cultures add this? I don't see an issue with Thai or Vietnamese foods.

Umm, MSG is in all kinds of food, not just Chinese.

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Articl...flavour-favour

It seems that some food scares stick around. In 2002 the European Food Information Council said MSG’s bad press was unfounded, and that it was a safe and useful taste enhancer for foods. But ten years later, a survey conducted by Leatherhead Food Research in 2012 found 63% of the 1,244 surveyed consumers still said they wanted less MSG in their food and drink.

Despite that, volume consumption for Western Europe has risen over the past five years and will continue to do so according to Euromonitor, which forecasts a 5.3% increase in year on year growth for MSG consumption over the period 2014-2019. However there are significant regional differences – Italy will see a 5.6% fall while growth in Norway is tipped to rise 6.7%.
And it was first produced by the Japanese.

Eastbay1K Jul 24, 2019 11:00 pm

If the ingredients have "yeast extract, autolyzed yeast, yeast food or yeast nutrient" among others, you're consuming MSG - even hydrolyzed protein.

Lots of Chinese restaurants advertise "No MSG."
Plenty of it in Japanese food. Ever hear of Ajinomoto?
Plenty of it in all the packaged crap on the non-Asian aisles in FaTass USA.

Yet only people seem to get MSG headaches after cheap American-Cantonese food.

Once again, it is probably the 5+ grams of sodium consumed at the place.

JamesKidd Jul 25, 2019 3:22 am

In the UK, all the chinese takeaways & restaurants I've been too specifically list "We do not use MSG"

nancypants Jul 25, 2019 3:26 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 31338174)
It happens. It might be the particular dish or a particular cook who has a heavy hand with the MSG.

No different than nitrites (?) in red wine. Some folks can't drink the reds without getting headaches, most are OK.

sulphites. They’re present in white wine as well but in smaller amounts

cblaisd Jul 25, 2019 8:37 pm

Moderator's Note....
 
A thread beginning with this post was in OMNI and then moved by an OMNI moderator to Dining Buzz where it has now joined other threads on the topic of MSG.

A few posts off-topic posts were removed for the sake of readability on the subject of the thread.

Thanks,

cblaisd, Co-Moderator, Dining Buzz

Mats Jul 25, 2019 10:02 pm

I wrote this article quite a few years ago: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16999713
It gets cited more often than I would have ever imagined.

enviroian Jul 26, 2019 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by Mats (Post 31343656)
I wrote this article quite a few years ago: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16999713
It gets cited more often than I would have ever imagined.

FWIW what that article says doesn't mean much to me. I have eaten at a place that has caused me a headache twice in a row. No msg restaurant in my future.


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