Andrew Zimmern fired for critiquing Chinese food
Dec 31, 2018, 11:53 am
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Read his quote in the article. The difference is he wasn't criticizing "a particular restaurant" he was calling ALL of them "horsesh-t" and that he was "saving the souls" by opening his own Chinese restaurant.
If the discussion is between some gas bag TV "celebrity" cook or the thousands of hard-working people running Chinese restaurants across fly-over country in North America put me in Column B.
If the discussion is between some gas bag TV "celebrity" cook or the thousands of hard-working people running Chinese restaurants across fly-over country in North America put me in Column B.
Dec 31, 2018, 12:00 pm
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Sad that TV execs have no backbone and cave to the SJW over anything they whine about like the spoiled brats they are. Opinions are not allowed unless they consist of unicorns and rainbows. 
Chinese food in general tastes like ..... I know not everyone agrees with me, and that's okay. But that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Social Justice Keyboard Warriors need to stfu and find something else to do!
Chinese food in general tastes like ..... I know not everyone agrees with me, and that's okay. But that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Social Justice Keyboard Warriors need to stfu and find something else to do!
Dec 31, 2018, 12:20 pm
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I'll be completely honest: I didn't even know who this guy was prior to this thread. Now I've read a couple articles just out of curiosity, and realize he made the comments at the same time he was pushing his own product.
I honestly think this is less about Chinese-American cuisine and culture and more about him trying to profit off his own restaurant, which he says he wants to grow as large as PF Chang's.
I don't know if that makes it any better or worse. Without seeing the whole original context, it sounds like he was attacking mallfood quality Chinese food, not creative Asian-American chefs doing nontraditional cuisine. But I don't really know, and wasn't ever going to watch his show no matter what timeslot it runs in.
I honestly think this is less about Chinese-American cuisine and culture and more about him trying to profit off his own restaurant, which he says he wants to grow as large as PF Chang's.
I don't know if that makes it any better or worse. Without seeing the whole original context, it sounds like he was attacking mallfood quality Chinese food, not creative Asian-American chefs doing nontraditional cuisine. But I don't really know, and wasn't ever going to watch his show no matter what timeslot it runs in.
Dec 31, 2018, 1:04 pm
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Andrew, your new place, is no PF Changs!
Dec 31, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Dec 31, 2018, 5:35 pm
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Dec 31, 2018, 7:02 pm
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In reality many foods, such as American Italian are often better than in the home country. They are often dishes invented by immigrants, which have access to much better meat & produce, in in their native lands. My travels abroad aboard, including three MSC vessels (in bout Yacht club & Specialty Dining) has proven this to me, that American Italian is better than much of true Italy.
Dec 31, 2018, 7:23 pm
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I consider Trattoria Il Mulino of New York, to be a prime example. Here is a direct link, to their Disney property.
https://www.swandolphinrestaurants.c...ino/index.html
Dinner Menu https://www.swandolphinrestaurants.c...ino-dinner.pdf
https://www.swandolphinrestaurants.c...ino/index.html
Dinner Menu https://www.swandolphinrestaurants.c...ino-dinner.pdf
Dec 31, 2018, 7:26 pm
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I read an article a few years ago that explained it in a little more detail. Basic idea is that these three have a long imperial history and have influenced most of the rest of the regional cuisines in the world. The French style influenced the rest of Western Europe. The Ottomans influenced the other Mediterranean cuisines. The Chinese influenced most of Asia.
The first thing that came to mind for me was whether Indian should be its own grand cuisine. Plus I think of Japanese as substantially different from other Asian cuisines. But I guess for this "rule of 3" purpose, French, Ottoman, and Chinese probably top the list. If they'd have asked me, I would have said Texas, Kansas City, and Memphis. But they didn't ask me.
Veteran of exactly 1 cruise here. We were on Celebrity X, which markets itself as more of a midrange brand above the Carnivals of the world. (I think Royal Caribbean owns it.) The food everywhere was decent - nothing awful, nothing great. They were proud of their "specialty" restaurants, but none would have been all that remarkable if they'd been in a shopping mall instead of on a boat. The sushi joint was reasonably good. The "main" dining hall was rather mediocre. The buffet sufficed for breakfast. About on par with your typical Marriott buffet. Unlikely that I'll do another cruise for many years.
The first thing that came to mind for me was whether Indian should be its own grand cuisine. Plus I think of Japanese as substantially different from other Asian cuisines. But I guess for this "rule of 3" purpose, French, Ottoman, and Chinese probably top the list. If they'd have asked me, I would have said Texas, Kansas City, and Memphis. But they didn't ask me.
Veteran of exactly 1 cruise here. We were on Celebrity X, which markets itself as more of a midrange brand above the Carnivals of the world. (I think Royal Caribbean owns it.) The food everywhere was decent - nothing awful, nothing great. They were proud of their "specialty" restaurants, but none would have been all that remarkable if they'd been in a shopping mall instead of on a boat. The sushi joint was reasonably good. The "main" dining hall was rather mediocre. The buffet sufficed for breakfast. About on par with your typical Marriott buffet. Unlikely that I'll do another cruise for many years.
Didn't some poll find Olive Garden best Italian restaurant in Pittsburgh a few years ago?
Dec 31, 2018, 7:37 pm
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They have a real scam going there, knowing that any Chinese guests will be desperate for "Chinese" food, and since they're the only game in town, they will be willing to pay just about anything. Even my SIL admitted it was lousy food. It ended up being the most expensive meal of our trip--by far.
Dec 31, 2018, 8:01 pm
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Dec 31, 2018, 11:09 pm
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I consider Trattoria Il Mulino of New York, to be a prime example. Here is a direct link, to their Disney property.
https://www.swandolphinrestaurants.c...ino/index.html
https://www.swandolphinrestaurants.c...ino/index.html
Dec 31, 2018, 11:24 pm
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We need to have a DO in China and taste some authentic Chinese cusine and cooking style. Not everything is from a wok with oil.
Why do you think Chinese people are rarely overweight until recent years of the western "invasion"?
By the way, most Chinese food here sucks.
Why do you think Chinese people are rarely overweight until recent years of the western "invasion"?
By the way, most Chinese food here sucks.
Jan 1, 2019, 1:14 am
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My gripes are:
-freshwater fish (i.e. how "fresh" could the water possibly be?)
-vegetable dishes that all taste the same
-bones! I simply don't believe that bones add flavor in a positive manner
-stinginess on the rice front; I realize that only poor people supposedly eat rice, but people like myself require it in order to down sea slug without puking
-地沟油
-eating shell on shrimp via a disgusting mouth manuvre