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Whowouldanewman Dec 19, 2017 12:15 am

I’ve never thought about it before. I always tip around 20% and probably wouldn’t increase that just due to the holidays.

JBord Dec 19, 2017 7:33 am


Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 29190167)
I'd rather see a restaurant pay reasonable compensation, be it time and half or whatever the industry norm might be, for holidays, than have an expectation that customers will significantly increase tips because of the holiday because not every customer can or will throw in that extra $10 or $20.

That would be great, but I think the transition would cause the issues you described in your post. Americans are uncomfortable not tipping at a restaurant. In Europe, they tip or over-tip, because it feels awkward not to. I have to imagine there would be a large number of people that would tip anyway (unless servers are required not to accept it), and cause some of the same expectations on tipping.


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 29190739)
Absolutely on Valentines Day. Can't remember noticing it on other holidays.(in the US)

I'm doing NYE at a restaurant this year. I can tell you that here in Chicago, almost every above-average restaurant has special Christmas Eve and NYE menus, and almost without exception, they cost more than if you ordered off the regular menu. In fact, I made a decision against one restaurant simply because it was so clear -- the items on the special menu were the same as the regular menu, even down to the exact description, making it easy to compare. What would have cost $70/person on the regular menu was $99 on the NYE menu. Maybe I'll go on the 30th instead! :)

CDTraveler Dec 19, 2017 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 29192236)
That would be great, but I think the transition would cause the issues you described in your post. Americans are uncomfortable not tipping at a restaurant. In Europe, they tip or over-tip, because it feels awkward not to. I have to imagine there would be a large number of people that would tip anyway (unless servers are required not to accept it), and cause some of the same expectations on tipping.

I didn't suggest not tipping at all, rather I think the percentage should be consistent with the quality of the service rather than the calendar, and the servers should receive a higher wage from their employer for working on holidays.


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 29192236)
I'm doing NYE at a restaurant this year. I can tell you that here in Chicago, almost every above-average restaurant has special Christmas Eve and NYE menus, and almost without exception, they cost more than if you ordered off the regular menu. In fact, I made a decision against one restaurant simply because it was so clear -- the items on the special menu were the same as the regular menu, even down to the exact description, making it easy to compare. What would have cost $70/person on the regular menu was $99 on the NYE menu. Maybe I'll go on the 30th instead! :)

...and that's why we tend to eat out on the 24th, and dine at home on Christmas day.

TeddyBoomBoom Dec 19, 2017 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 29190167)
Interesting how you say being generous "has served me well" - have you considered what happens after you leave that restaurant?

The customer who has that server after you and leaves a 20% tip, which is high standard these days, may leave behind a negative impression on the server, which may carry over in their work. The sad fact is that one extravagant gesture sets an expectation of how future customers will tip for same service. I'd rather see a restaurant pay reasonable compensation, be it time and half or whatever the industry norm might be, for holidays, than have an expectation that customers will significantly increase tips because of the holiday because not every customer that can or will throw in that extra $10 or $20.

Corresponding with that, has anybody else noticed how holiday menus are often pricier than for the same dishes on non-holidays?

fair enough... and I certainly wouldn’t want to argue about it.

ime, I tend to enjoy my meals/dinners/dates/whatevers, and I typically throw extra cash to the service employees involved. I feel I’ve enjoyed better repeat-visits, because these ppl are at work and remember good tips. Plus, as someone who worked for tips in a previous life, I can’t image going out for a reasonably expensive dinner and then not taking care of the server.

I mean... could I go out to eat on a holiday and tip 15-20%? Sure.... I could... but I’d feel like a complete jerkbag. I put a lot of value on my dinners and drinks and relaxation time, and I make damn sure to take care of the bartender or waiter.

Badenoch Dec 21, 2017 5:18 am

My usual tip is 20 per cent of the pre-tax amount dropping to 10 if unhappy rising to 30 if ecstatic with the service. I might bump it up to 25 per cent for the holidays at a regular haunt but don't feel an obligation or need to. I do not top up a service charge unless the circumstances are exceptional.

Aaron Vennard Dec 30, 2017 4:27 pm

NYC: 18-20%

nkedel Dec 30, 2017 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by davie355 (Post 29088037)
With Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up I would like to ask whether the standard tip amount in United States restaurants needs to be increased on these days.

No, not necessary. Tip as you usually would.

(And since there's no agreement on it, anywhere in the 15-20% range is fine, and on either before or after-tax amount as your habit/conscience and sense of the appropriate dictates. Personally, I double the tax -- 9%-9.75% depending on which suburb around here and maybe round up to the next even $1 or nearest $5-10 if it's a really big bill.)

It's certainly gracious to tip more around the holidays, and given how many fewer restaurants are open and how often the ones that are are over-busy, it's gracious to give servers some slack for what would otherwise be less than stellar service.


Also: I heard some restaurants have prix fixe and/or auto-gratuity on these days. If auto-gratuity is included, is a further tip needed? (I saw a post somewhere from a self-professed ex-waiter that said yes, but that struck me as ridiculous--but maybe I am off base.)
Fixed price menu vs. a la carte doesn't change the deal on tipping, unless it's one of the very rare "no tipping" restaurants, or they explicitly say the gratuity is included.

I've never seen auto-gratuity specific to the holiday (just party sizes, and at a few restaurants in NYC, automatic on late-night hours -- either way it should be posted on the menu.) If auto-gratuity is included, that is in lieu of a tip, although if it's less than you'd otherwise tip you can usually kick in a little extra.


Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 29190167)
The sad fact is that one extravagant gesture sets an expectation of how future customers will tip for same service.

:rolleyes: Servers know what a standard tip is, and therre's no slippery slope.


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 29190739)
Absolutely on Valentines Day. Can't remember noticing it on other holidays.(in the US)

Mother's Day is the other really big one for overpriced special menus around here.


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