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yyznomad Nov 20, 2018 4:08 pm

Yeah, I never really found the appeal of craft beers... and IPAs. Because IPA? Because craft?

yyznomad Jan 28, 2021 9:54 pm

I'm having an IPA right now... gifted to me recently... it's ok but I still prefer lagers.

DELee Jan 29, 2021 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 33001895)
I'm having an IPA right now... gifted to me recently... it's ok but I still prefer lagers.

A touch hoppy?

David

PsiFighter37 Feb 2, 2021 9:12 am

If anything, I think the Northeast/New England IPA scene has gotten much better over the past couple of years. Lots of innovation.

gfunkdave Feb 2, 2021 11:29 am

I like New England IPAs a lot more than west coast IPAs. New England ones have lots of tropical fruit flavors, while west coast ones are just bitter hop bombs.

I mostly like hoppy beers that aren't really IPAs these days.

yyznomad Feb 2, 2021 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by DELee (Post 33003459)
A touch hoppy?

David

Yep. I mean I don't hate it, but I often find the aftertaste to be blech... but that's just me.

DELee Feb 2, 2021 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 33012376)
Yep. I mean I don't hate it, but I often find the aftertaste to be blech... but that's just me.

It's not just you.

Sadly, some/many/most? brew folk seem to think that if some hops is good, a bushel is tres distinctive.

Hence, the title of this thread.

At that point, I'd ask if it were wort the effort...

David

kipper Feb 3, 2021 6:38 am

Some days, I really enjoy a hop bomb of a beer.

BamaVol Feb 3, 2021 11:46 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 33013312)
Some days, I really enjoy a hop bomb of a beer.

It has its place. It’s been a long time since I’ve been to a brewery where IPAs dominate. Come to think of it, I haven’t been to a brewery in a long time. I think many beer retailers (liquor stores, package stores, ABC stores) are a little behind the times and often I find the stock is overwhelmingly hoppy beers. That’s not the real world. We spent August in AVL, home of 90+ craft breweries. We visited a half dozen and all featured a variety of beers, from dark to sour to hoppy to malty. I don’t see that same array at my local retailer. Maybe that’s why the OP was so confused about what constituted “craft beer”. It’s like buying cilantro at the grocery store and saying “vegetables taste like soap”.

pseudoswede Feb 3, 2021 11:58 am

The only time I like hoppy beers is when I'm eating hot wings or spicy Indian food--even then, I won't go out of my way to find/order one.

kipper Feb 3, 2021 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 33014042)
It has its place. It’s been a long time since I’ve been to a brewery where IPAs dominate. Come to think of it, I haven’t been to a brewery in a long time. I think many beer retailers (liquor stores, package stores, ABC stores) are a little behind the times and often I find the stock is overwhelmingly hoppy beers. That’s not the real world. We spent August in AVL, home of 90+ craft breweries. We visited a half dozen and all featured a variety of beers, from dark to sour to hoppy to malty. I don’t see that same array at my local retailer. Maybe that’s why the OP was so confused about what constituted “craft beer”. It’s like buying cilantro at the grocery store and saying “vegetables taste like soap”.

I've seen a lot of breweries where IPAs are still the dominant beer on their tap list, but most have a wide range of beers so even if they have 8 IPAs, they have 4 or 5 non-IPAs.

gfunkdave Feb 3, 2021 4:57 pm

I remember a beer person telling me that IPA is the easiest style to learn to make, which is why there are so many of them, and that most of them are junk because the brewers don't know what they're doing.

I tend to just drink beer and not overthink it too much.

braslvr Feb 3, 2021 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 33014194)
I've seen a lot of breweries where IPAs are still the dominant beer on their tap list, but most have a wide range of beers so even if they have 8 IPAs, they have 4 or 5 non-IPAs.

Perfect! My kind of brewery.

exerda Feb 3, 2021 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 33013312)
Some days, I really enjoy a hop bomb of a beer.

Me, too.

The trend now is a return to West coast style ipas, abandoning the heavily-sugared NE hazy style it seems. I love a good IPA of either variety, but crappy craft brewers were definitely ruining hazy ipas.

yyznomad Feb 3, 2021 11:54 pm


Originally Posted by DELee (Post 33012415)
It's not just you.

Sadly, some/many/most? brew folk seem to think that if some hops is good, a bushel is tres distinctive.

Hence, the title of this thread.

At that point, I'd ask if it were wort the effort...

David

Yeah. I'm not much of a beer drinker. I am a big Scotch person. But when it comes to beer, I really like lagers. Yes, even Heineken.


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