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Originally Posted by Cloudship
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I agree that what we call "Chinese" in the US is not really authentic, and it is good to try authentic Chinese cooking. At the same time, I think that "Chinese American" (my term) also qualifies as a type of cooking, even if it is not authentic to China. And just because it isn't authentic doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't enjoy it.
I am curious though - is what we do get more aligned with what one finds in the Canton region? One other point: even authentically-prepared Chinese food in the US will taste slightly different than the real thing in China (where it's just called "food" ;) ). This is because of differences in available ingredients and, also, in methods of food handling and storage. Though Chinese methods are completely healthy (after all, they've been perfected over many thousands of years), not all of them comply with US health code requirements. And one final note: When my wife first came here, she both amused and mystified that many, if not most, American Jews consider Chinese food a "traditional" celebratory Jewish meal. She understood why when I explained that, on major Christian holidays when most other restaurants are closed, Chinese restaurants were usually open for business. |
http://www.thesearchforgeneraltso.com/
A interesting documentary on Chinese food in America, it is on Netflix. |
Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach
(Post 26407523)
Then again, Chinese food in Singapore has changed with local ingredients. I was in HaiNan last month and was determined to find what is known as HaiNan chicken rice in SE Asia. Well, the dish apparently originated in SanYa with a free-range chicken (small, tough bird) from WenChang so it is called WenChang chicken.
It is served in the whole plate. Rice cooked in chicken broth isn't served, and neither is the heavy sweet soya sauce (which is Indonesian anyway). Only way you get that is at a western hotel because they are serving it the way foreign travellers are familiar with it. |
Originally Posted by ROCAT
(Post 26425813)
http://www.thesearchforgeneraltso.com/
A interesting documentary on Chinese food in America, it is on Netflix. |
Originally Posted by ROCAT
(Post 26425813)
http://www.thesearchforgeneraltso.com/
A interesting documentary on Chinese food in America, it is on Netflix. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 26422825)
Hollywood.
There's lots of good regional chinese restaurants in San Gabriel/Monterey Park/Arcadia/Alhambra where it won't be anything like "standard chinese food". |
Originally Posted by chrisl137
(Post 26430106)
That was the mistake - I didn't think there was chinese food west of DTLA...
There's lots of good regional chinese restaurants in San Gabriel/Monterey Park/Arcadia/Alhambra where it won't be anything like "standard chinese food". There are also some good restaurants in Irvine, where there is a large Chinese community. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 26428654)
Just out of curiosity, what's your source for this? I happen to like Hainan chicken, and have never met a single food person who suggested that it was not invented in Singapore/Malaysia (by immigrants from Hainan).
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And... for...completeness? Australian "Chinese" food is not only also not terribly authentic..it is also QUITE different to US "Chinese" food...:D
I studied Chinese history for my matriculation.... and our teacher arranged for one of the better local Chinese restaurants to serve us a range of authentic dishes.... As already mentioned food was (is?) very regional in China... seafood near the coast, lamb in some areas etc... Most of the dishes were quite different to standard "Australian Chinese"...some weren't even terribly appealing (to our palates)... but it was a very interesting evening. |
Americanized Chinese Food
Sysco or rather the New York and CA Chinatown versions of Sysco. While the cooking techniques are loosely rooted in actual Chinese culture, there is a menu of pre-made "American" sauces that these kitchens finish their dishes with. That is why the Sweet and Sour Chicken and the Broccoli Beef taste practically the same no matter which state you are in. Every one of these "takeout" restaurants order their sauces and spice mixes from one of the two suppliers. As customers expect their "Chinese" food to taste a certain way, that is the way most dishes are made. The exceptions obviously being the "hidden" menus or "hidden restaurants"
The same phenomenon is in Canada, where Chicken Balls (Canadian Version of sweet and sour chicken) is the same across the entire country except in the Chinese communities where the dish is non-existent. It's both sad and amusing when someone orders Chicken Balls and the same fried doughy lump shows up covered in day-glo crimson jello-sauce. |
Originally Posted by trooper
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And... for...completeness? Australian "Chinese" food is not only also not terribly authentic..it is also QUITE different to US "Chinese" food...:D
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I vaguely recall looking in a desk drawer in a Shenzhen hotel, only to find a list of foods that should never be paired together (so as to not disrupt the body's qi).
A waitress at a restaurant in China told me that my desired dinner combo for the night would not be entertained by the chef, for the same reason. Instead, I was served eggplant and peanut butter. |
Originally Posted by BuildingMyBento
(Post 27478197)
A waitress at a restaurant in China told me that my desired dinner combo for the night would not be entertained by the chef, for the same reason. Instead, I was served eggplant and peanut butter.
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my take is there probably is one, but it is probably in chinese.
the english language chinese cookery books rarely ever give correct instructions on techniques. chinese cooking has many tricks that even the french do not know about. baking soda soaked shrimp. blanch and shock...meats just these two as examples |
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