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uk1 Oct 13, 2014 5:26 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 23668538)
On the basis that I do boil in the bag, I am sure even a cheapie will be a step up!

It will. And so will being a better cook and using a pan. :);)

USA_flyer Oct 13, 2014 6:06 am


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 23668567)
It will. And so will being a better cook and using a pan. :);)

:p

I use two bags for portion control.:p

uk1 Oct 13, 2014 6:11 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 23668671)
:p

I use two bags for portion control.:p


Someone, living in London with as much cash and leisure time as you should be spending less cash at Wetherspoons and picking bags of rice on your way back home and buying yourself an airfryer and a zoji.

Get a grip.

:D

USA_flyer Oct 13, 2014 8:33 am


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 23668690)
Someone, living in London with as much cash and leisure time as you should be spending less cash at Wetherspoons and picking bags of rice on your way back home and buying yourself an airfryer and a zoji.

Get a grip.

:D

Excuse me - but I usually hold my nose while walking past Wetherspoons.

:p

PSUhorty Oct 13, 2014 6:50 pm

No idea what an air fryer is.... I make chips the traditional way (which I assume is not with an 'air fryer'... and I'm not demonizing an air fryer, could be awesome). I always use peanut oil. 320 degrees F until blonde color. Drain, let cool, then 375F until finished. Malt vinegar and plenty of salt. Excellent.

uk1 Oct 14, 2014 2:12 am


Originally Posted by PSUhorty (Post 23672328)
No idea what an air fryer is.... I make chips the traditional way (which I assume is not with an 'air fryer'... and I'm not demonizing an air fryer, could be awesome). I always use peanut oil. 320 degrees F until blonde color. Drain, let cool, then 375F until finished. Malt vinegar and plenty of salt. Excellent.

Hi,

Airfryers have the qualities of a really good convection (not forced air) oven but is smaller, more controllable - circulates around all of the product - and you can "shake" it.

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I use to do much the same except that I would blanche in boiling water until soft and then refrigerate and then double fry as you. If done correctly this is a perfect approach although some will debate their preference for sunflower or peanut ie whether it is neutrality or peanut flavour.

The airfryer approach I posted a long time ago from fresh allows you to use olive oil - something you cannot do with the traditional deep fry method because of the low flash point of olive oil. However this method allows the taste and caramelising of deep fry but give the flavour of your best olive oil. The only real compromise with this approach isn't the flavour but the shape of chip. It's better not to cut them long but to cut them into segments so they don't break when you shake! Shaking is a real advantage of airfrying compared to using a traditional oven.

The OP has confused me a little as he was someone seeming to wish to take trouble and achieve thr best result but morphed into a boil in the bag rice person ..... so it's difficult to focus and help!

There are cerain type of chips and I guess situations where to me the airfryer for chips is a perfectly acceptable and undetectable solution. Life is after all about acceptable compromises ie results v trouble. Getting 95% or more of what you are happy with for example.

Many of the McCain oven chip products when air-fried taste exactly like deep fried restaurant chips as the air-fryer does a perfect job with premium oven chips compared with using a traditional oven, which I find unacceptable. They crisp without drying and are moist and fluffy inside. The first time I tried the airfryer I was confused by it because I really couldn't tell the difference between those and deep fried whereas oven chip cooked in an oven have never been acceptable to me.

Most people cooking chips the traditional way will have good and bad chip days and then you have the fryer to keep clean and store and the oil to maintain. The majority of people expressing an opinion about the airfryer approach often do not appear to have tried it but are instead starting from a point of presuming it cannot be as good because perhaps they have tried oven chips cooked by another method or a different brand of fryer as these vary and have different results as well. I'm an experimenter, hence my conclusion.

My olive oil potatoes are a different thing to chips really ... more small roasties.

:)

LapLap Oct 14, 2014 6:17 am


Originally Posted by uk1;
The OP has confused me a little as he was someone seeming to wish to take trouble and achieve thr best result but morphed into a boil in the bag rice person ..... so it's difficult to focus and help!

USA_flyer, to put some of the comments into perspective, remember that they come from someone whose approach to cheese is the "boil in the bag" equivalent.
eg. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/dinin...se-slices.html
I'll paraphrase:
"It is interesting to see how your post about boil in the bag rice elicits such a variable range of attitudes ...........Some of it quite close-minded and snobbish" :eek:

Your own responses and attitude have been quite magnificent. My respects!

Showbizguru Oct 14, 2014 6:24 am

Only another week or two now and my Aga will be on for the winter.
Nothing beats cooking on an Aga.

uk1 Oct 14, 2014 7:08 am


Originally Posted by Showbizguru (Post 23674241)
Only another week or two now and my Aga will be on for the winter.
Nothing beats cooking on an Aga.


Snob! :D


This is the corner of the kitchen with my side-Aga-range for fast rather than slow cooking .... with a picture of the much hated McCains Home Chips and a chicken ciabatta I have rather shamedly eaten this lunch time. Those chips looked alright and tatsed alright to wifey and me ....... .... but what do I know ... I yearn for round cheese for my burgers .....:eek: :D :p

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Showbizguru Oct 14, 2014 7:31 am


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 23674412)
Snob! :D

First thing I'll cook is large jacket potatoes rubbed with olive oil, ground black pepper and garlic powder.
An hour in the top oven without foil sees them with a cripsy outer-shell and fluffy insides with a little melted butter.
Together with a steak and some curried baked beans.
My kids arrive home from school and when they see the Aga on they know instantly that will be their first meal on it.
And they love it.

uk1 Oct 14, 2014 7:33 am

I bet you've got a 'bleedin labrador and a cocker dozing as well.


:p

LapLap Oct 14, 2014 7:34 am

That earlier thread was hilarious, ridiculous enough to stick in my mind. My "research" took all the time I spent to enter "cheese" + "slices" in the search field.

Way less time than googling "Gouda" and "cumin" and then documenting 4 or 5 different internet sites out of the many that sell Cumin flavoured Gouda to spoon feed you with. Was doing enough of that with my then three year old.

Showbizguru Oct 14, 2014 8:23 am


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 23674526)
I bet you've got a 'bleedin labrador and a cocker dozing as well.


:p

Unlike your kitchen where you appear to need two of everything to cook for just two people I only have the one mutt. ;)

Showbizguru Oct 15, 2014 7:10 am

All this over the humble chip :rolleyes:


Just to put another point of view across - I'd take McCain's Curly Fries over a straight chip any day.:D

cblaisd Oct 15, 2014 6:29 pm

It is truly amazing, sometimes, what sort of animus and invective can get hurled back and forth. If the sparring partners want to spar and one-up via PM, go for it. For now, this thread is closed on multiple FT Rules grounds.

cblaisd
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