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KevinDTW Mar 3, 2014 8:57 am


Originally Posted by Sweet Willie (Post 22442079)
I'd like to see a credit card commitment for reservations....Knowing you'll be dinged for a no-show will change some (most?) people's bad behavior...

That's fine with me, but the flip side is if I have a reservation -- even at a prime time like 8:00 p.m. on a Saturday -- then that table had better be ready at 8:00 p.m. sharp. No directing me to the bar for 20 minutes or more. Any delay of more than a few minutes should mean a small discount on my check. They can't have it both ways -- if I am expected to show up on time or face a penalty, then they must deliver that table on time or also face a penalty.

mecabq Mar 3, 2014 9:14 am


Originally Posted by chgoeditor (Post 22421825)
Honestly, I think there's room for OpenTable improvement in this arena...I book the majority of my reservations through OT, so they clearly know that I have a 0% no-show rate. Wouldn't it save time if they simply communicated that to the restaurants where I make reservations? Or how about allowing me access to tables at more in-demand restaurants because I'm almost guaranteed to show up?

+1 I like that OpenTable has functionality for the restaurants to indicate if someone was a no-show, and then ban customers for repeated infractions. Of course a determined customer could work around this, but at least it would send a message.

My company owns several upscale restaurants in the Middle East, and no-shows are especially endemic here. We have even had huge no-show rates for invitation-only, complimentary "VIP" events for which the customer RSVP'd. Talk about discourteous.

dchristiva Mar 3, 2014 10:19 am


Originally Posted by KevinDTW (Post 22452720)
That's fine with me, but the flip side is if I have a reservation -- even at a prime time like 8:00 p.m. on a Saturday -- then that table had better be ready at 8:00 p.m. sharp. No directing me to the bar for 20 minutes or more. Any delay of more than a few minutes should mean a small discount on my check. They can't have it both ways -- if I am expected to show up on time or face a penalty, then they must deliver that table on time or also face a penalty.

I totally agree. ^

Had this happen on Sat. night. They seemed happy to take the reservation, and equally happy to send us to the bar (where we got decidedly disinterested service) for a drink. The delay was not horribly long, but still felt a little "bait and switch"-ish.

Don't take a reservation if you can't honor it and I'll agree not to be a no-show.

sweeper20 Mar 3, 2014 11:03 am


Originally Posted by KevinDTW (Post 22452720)
That's fine with me, but the flip side is if I have a reservation -- even at a prime time like 8:00 p.m. on a Saturday -- then that table had better be ready at 8:00 p.m. sharp. No directing me to the bar for 20 minutes or more. Any delay of more than a few minutes should mean a small discount on my check. They can't have it both ways -- if I am expected to show up on time or face a penalty, then they must deliver that table on time or also face a penalty.

Very good point. I'm fine with committing to my reservation with money in the game if they are as well

Sweet Willie Mar 4, 2014 10:51 am


Originally Posted by Yahillwe (Post 22446138)
This is my biggest worry, and that is why I don't organize Dos.

Go ahead & plan them and pick a proper venue to get things started. (proper venue not being a 5* but easy going, 'cheap' prices and casual setting).

Not everyone on FT looks at or even knows about the CommunityBuzz Forum on Flyertalk so you should expect that any attendance will be low to probably a no show. So plan on dining alone sometime, when starting a Do in an area that hasn't had a Do.


Originally Posted by KevinDTW (Post 22452720)
That's fine with me, but the flip side is if I have a reservation -- even at a prime time like 8:00 p.m. on a Saturday -- then that table had better be ready at 8:00 p.m. sharp. No directing me to the bar for 20 minutes or more. Any delay of more than a few minutes should mean a small discount on my check. They can't have it both ways -- if I am expected to show up on time or face a penalty, then they must deliver that table on time or also face a penalty.

you do realize that if you don't show up on time you don't face a penalty?

20 minutes you should get something comped, like a free appetizer or drink. 5-10 mins wait at a later reservation time like 8pm on the busiest night at a very popular restaurant is to be expected, otherwise you are being unreasonable.

KevinDTW Mar 4, 2014 11:51 am


Originally Posted by Sweet Willie (Post 22460309)
you do realize that if you don't show up on time you don't face a penalty?

Wasn't that precisely the point of your original post -- that you would be "dinged" on your credit card for a no-show?


Originally Posted by Sweet Willie (Post 22460309)
20 minutes you should get something comped, like a free appetizer or drink. 5-10 mins wait at a later reservation time like 8pm on the busiest night at a very popular restaurant is to be expected, otherwise you are being unreasonable.

I think we agree on this -- I said any delay of more than a few minutes should occasion something for the customer, not any delay at all. My point was that I don't mind committing to my reservation with my cc, but the commitment has to flow in both directions.


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