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Originally Posted by uk1
(Post 24266732)
Basically, In summary the idea of 11% of the Spanish population seems right to you, so you believe the evidence and seem indignant and think me stupid that I don't. It seems wrong to me so I disbelieve it. C'est la vie.:)
It's not 11% of the population, it's 11% of households. The population of Spain is 46m and there are 16m households. |
Originally Posted by bensyd
(Post 24266753)
It would help if you knew what you were disbelieving.;)
It's not 11% of the population, it's 11% of households. The population of Spain is 46m and there are 16m households. But you said 10% and now you are agreeing with me that it isn't 10% but a claimed 11% plus. ..... so Thermomix marketing certainly seems to have been working on you OK .... :D |
When searching and researching recipes on the internet in English I can joyfully go about my business with little hindrance.
For some time now, and the problem has been getting worse and worse over the past couple of years, it's getting harder and harder to find good reliable recipes in Spanish that don't involve a blasted Thermomix. Spanish online recipe sources are infested with Thermomix's unique cooking directions and most do not give alternative instructions. It's really frustrating, so much so that it made me wonder what the heck was going on and has been the main reason why I initially looked into this Spanish phenomenon and have continued investigating. Each New Year there seem to be less and less recipes for making the Epiphany speciality, Roscon de Reyes, in a traditional way. I fervently hope that the Thermomix doesn't catch on in the UK in the same way. The idea that a sizeable proportion of the best and most trustworthy English food writers and bloggers with an online presence would convert to Thermomix and write with the assumption that their readers already have one is not one I relish. :( |
The alcohol-fuelled (on one side at least) dispute over statistics is amusing, but irrelevant. What matters is whether one can see a need/justify the expense of a Thermomix.
A relative of mine is a Thermomix demonstrator (in Australia). It seems like a lot of hassle to organise the "parties" (a bit like Tupperware I think) and end up (according to her) selling one or two a quarter. They are priced at around $2000 here, and that, to me at least, is an incredibly high price point for what you get. |
Originally Posted by Nickolash27
(Post 24269201)
The alcohol-fuelled (on one side at least) dispute over statistics is amusing, but irrelevant. What matters is whether one can see a need/justify the expense of a Thermomix.
A relative of mine is a Thermomix demonstrator (in Australia). It seems like a lot of hassle to organise the "parties" (a bit like Tupperware I think) and end up (according to her) selling one or two a quarter. They are priced at around $2000 here, and that, to me at least, is an incredibly high price point for what you get. To me there seems to be an upper natural price point limit in the UK of at most £199 to attract aspirational home cooks. That is still a stretch price in my view, but I might just buy one. The issue is that home demonstration seems to be a legacy of an era long before the internet. These days you don't need home demonstrators if you have the internet. You could have a Thermomix Club web site built both pre-sale material and with instructions and hints and downloadable recipes for those that purchase. They could sell it direct and cut the cost. The current way to market seems out of touch and out of time and hurts their pricing. But this unit was intended to be a part of a professional rather than home kitchen. So perhaps they aren't bothered. Perhaps home kitchens is seen as an add on market rather than the prime market. My presumption is that they know this and wish to remain exactly where they are. |
Originally Posted by Nickolash27
(Post 24269201)
The alcohol-fuelled (on one side at least) dispute over statistics is amusing, but irrelevant. What matters is whether one can see a need/justify the expense of a Thermomix.
A relative of mine is a Thermomix demonstrator (in Australia). It seems like a lot of hassle to organise the "parties" (a bit like Tupperware I think) and end up (according to her) selling one or two a quarter. They are priced at around $2000 here, and that, to me at least, is an incredibly high price point for what you get. In France, the parties are not organized by the sales reps. They are organized by the customers who have a Thermomix. So if you can get together x nr of friends to attend, the demo person will come - and the reward? : A thermomix recipe book (which costs around EUR40). The lady we know does about 2 a week and sells around 5 machines a month - and that's considered "low". |
Apparently they have a bit of work to do in Australia...:D
As part of a $100,000 or so tender for new cooking equipment, the Governor-General's office has also put in a bid for stick blenders, food processors, a KitchenAid, deep fryer and pasta maker. But of all the pieces of equipment, it was the Thermomix that captured the imagination of the Senate's Finance and Public Administration Committee on Tuesday. "You're going to have to help with with this, a Thermomix," Labor's Joe Ludwig asked innocently. "I don't know what a Thermomix is." Official secretary to the Governor-General, Mark Fraser, was similarly ignorant in reply. "I don't know what a Thermomix, senator, is," he added apologetically. In the end, it was up to committee chair and South Australian senator Cory Bernardi to educate the room. He explained a Thermomix was a food processing machine "very popular amongst the home masterchefs of today". Senator Ludwig then wondered aloud if this was something "elite trendies" use. "In Queensland you may refer to them as that. I just refer to them as those who have a particular interest in cooking," Bernardi lobbed back at his Sunshine State colleague. |
Originally Posted by bensyd
(Post 24403199)
Apparently they have a bit of work to do in Australia...:D
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...23-13n06o.html Trust a South Australian to know his cooking... The picture posted is the old version though... one would hope they'd at least invest in a top of the line, latest model. :D |
So we finally took the plunge and paid for the Thermomix on our recent trip to France. The TM5 has a 2-3 month waiting list at the moment. So our family friends will handcarry it to Singapore with them in Januray (waiting waiting).
As I ordered it in France it will come with the french chip and recipe book (fine for me, but not for the wife). So we will purchase the English chip and book from the Thermomix Australia site. |
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