Wine drinkers - what are you having today/tonight?
Dec 15, 2012, 4:35 pm
#77
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A bottle of Wither Hills Ben Morven 2007 Pinot Noir single vineyard we brought back from the cellar door last year.
It went down so well we've moved onto a Chilean Kimbao Pinot Noir 2011.
A bit late in the year to be drinking Pinot but its a compromise with SWMBO who isn't a big drinker of heavy reds.
It went down so well we've moved onto a Chilean Kimbao Pinot Noir 2011.
A bit late in the year to be drinking Pinot but its a compromise with SWMBO who isn't a big drinker of heavy reds.
Dec 18, 2012, 2:44 am
#80
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Just made lamb shanks with this $6 Spanish wine - El Burro 'kickass Garnacha'. 1 glass left to quaff and it's got 2 big hairy ones. I'll have to pick up a case. In the mean time we'll suffer with this 07 Roesenblum 'Snow's Lake' Syrah.
Dec 18, 2012, 3:04 am
#81
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I suffered through a Wild Horse Pinot Noir last night, the first American wine I've had in awhile. Okay, maybe suffered is a little too strong, but I certainly didn't think it was worth anywhere near the €16 I paid for it.
Dec 18, 2012, 4:08 am
#82
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we are in Lyon suffering through the CdP glut(06,07,09 and 10 were wonderful vintages),. prop. bottlings are 32 euro or so. st joseph is 25 or less and also great. pretty obvious to me, they keep the good stuff, and send the residue to usa. the restaurants carry bottles from small growers, (there are about 200 producers)
Dec 18, 2012, 7:04 am
#83
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I'm trying to decide, if I really have to move to the UK next year, whether it will be worth it (and legal) to rent a truck periodically, drive over to France, and bring a thousand or so bottles back. Haven't researched it yet
Dec 18, 2012, 7:35 am
#84
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Not familiar with Wild Horse. You generally will have better luck with American pinot noir from the Willammette Valley in Oregon.
Dec 18, 2012, 7:44 am
#85
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it a matter of taste. a lot of the OR wines are short on fruit, while i think the CA wines, while can be over fruitty, i do prefe CA canores, .AND THE CA MOUNTAIN WINES.
Dec 18, 2012, 10:01 am
#86
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Had a L'Aventure Cote a Cote Estate 2010 from Paso Robles last night. Was 42% grenache, 34% syrah, 24% mourvedre. This fellow wasn't allowed to concoct such blasphemy in France so started up something very nice in Paso. Highly recommended.
Dec 18, 2012, 10:19 am
#87
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Had something similar last night...Slacker by Linne Calodo in Paso Robles, 62% Syrah, 32% Grenache, 6% mourvedre, highly recommend also.
Dec 18, 2012, 11:30 am
#88
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Dec 19, 2012, 3:27 am
#89
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Pinots are tough. Not a lot of values out there. I have a bar and can't usually find anything worth serving that costs < $35 wholesale. With other varietals I can get d*mn nice wine for half of that. Wild Horse is just OK. Usually a cherry fruit bomb w/out a lot of complexity. Had a bottle of their '08' Res. recently and it wasn't much better. We just don't get those Burgundian barnyard flavors I love so much in Cal PNs. Know your vintages before buying an OR Pinot. They get weather up there (much like Burgundy) and IMO only 3 years out of 10 are worth buying.
Dec 19, 2012, 8:31 am
#90
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Do you really have much of a market now for better French wines in the US, or is it cost prohibitive most of the time? Definitely little to no market for US wines here. To clarify 'here' means my rural area of Europe, not in the bigger cities, but obviously the Americans are trying to make inroads.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...eau/57838048/1
Last edited by VivoPerLei; Dec 19, 2012 at 8:39 am