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By the replies, it would appear that I am using too much sauce in the oven.
Follow-up question: when making chicken (or beef or pork) enchiladas, how much sauce do you put in with the meat? That might be my second problem. |
Originally Posted by sparkchaser
(Post 19632752)
By the replies, it would appear that I am using too much sauce in the oven.
Follow-up question: when making chicken (or beef or pork) enchiladas, how much sauce do you put in with the meat? That might be my second problem. |
Typically in my house the interior of the enchilada is reserved for the ooey-gooey combination of meat, cheese, beans, veggies, etc. (or any combination of those) while the sauce goes over the top of those rolled tubes of goodness. The decision point would be for hot peppers (chipotle, jalapeno, etc.) and whether you want them to influence the interior of the enchilada or the sauce.
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Originally Posted by braslvr
(Post 19632837)
We don't put any enchilada sauce in with the meat. Just well seasoned, moist meat and a bit of cheese inside. Cover with foil (no sauce) and bake at 350 until hot 25-30 minutes, then remove foil, top with sauce and cheese, and broil until cheese melts.
Vielen Dank! Or should I say muchas gracias? :p |
Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 19620984)
Last night I made the simplest cheese enchiladas possible - monterey jack, onions, habanero peppers, ten minutes in the oven at 225C, with store bought red sauce, and it was still better than most I get in restaurants.
Why do most places insist on smothering enchiladas in gobs of that gooey industrial cheese? Sometimes they'll mix it with a brown sauce which is only slightly better. So the question is, how do you like your cheese enchiladas - minimalist or gussied up with everything? Just curious I'd never made enchiladas before- and my husband said "Where'd you GET these?" "um.. I MADE them, you were HERE when I did" (I'm a terrible cook- he didn't believe me :rolleyes: ) also used canned sauce. They were.. very good. It was one of those recipes "what've I got in the cupboard/fridge to make something with? The dipping the corn tortillas in the hot oil was the messiest/hardest part since I HATE cooking with messy grease. But yeah- how is it that restaurants can't provide such a simple, easy & delicious enchilada?? Cheese (maybe they used processed??) but funny tho yes I had to chime in, I was very pleased with my "good" dinner for once. I like to cook, and follow all the recipe instructions but my dinners are hit or miss unfortunately. I got lucky with this recipe. I think it was the canned sauce. |
Originally Posted by youreadyfreddie
(Post 19622716)
I've been making my own enchilada sauces--red, from store-bought dried chilies, and green from fresh New Mexico chilies.
Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 19625862)
How do you make your sauce?
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Hey there enchilada fans! I had forgotten about this thread until Sweet Willie sent me a gentle reminder today.
Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 19625862)
How do you make your sauce?
I don’t have a formal recipe or exact measurements to make red enchilada sauce, but it’s pretty easy. I use the following ingredients: Dried chiles: A 6-ounce bag is about 20 dried and costs me about $3.50. I use mild chilies, (Guajillo, California, Colorado, or New Mexico) A yellow onion: Cut into large chunks One or two cloves of fresh garlic (OK, I use a lot more than two—maybe six or eight, YMMV) And this is what I do: Place dried chilies, onion, and garlic (and any other spices/salt/seasonings/herbs you may want to add) in a stockpot and fill the pot with water, and bring to a boil, cover pot, reduce heat to simmer for 30 minutes. When the chiles and onions are soft, remove from heat and allow the whole mess to cool a bit (20-30 minutes). In a blender (in small batches) blend the mixture of chiles, onions, and liquid until smooth. Pour mixture through a fine sieve. Use a soft rubber spatula/Scotch spoon to push the liquid through the sieve—you want to trap and discard the stems, seeds, and small bits of chile skin that didn’t soften up. Muy importante! Be very careful when blending warm or hot liquid, as the heat can cause the liquid to come out of the top of the blender or even blow the top off of it. No one needs a faceful or an eyeful of hot enchilada sauce. I never fill the blender more than half way, and I cover the top of the blender with a thick towel and hold it firmly while the blender is going. The liquid will be thin. Pour it into a large skillet and cook it over low to medium heat until it reduces and thickens. I apologize for anything that seems vague. I came up with this “recipe” on my own, so I just go by how I want it to taste and how thick I want the sauce to be. This makes a fair amount of sauce (again, sorry to be vague) which can be refrigerated for about a week. The sauce can also be frozen.
Originally Posted by sparkchaser
(Post 19626109)
Yay! An enchilada thread!
My enchiladas always fall apart in the oven. Any advice on how to properly prepare the corn tortilla so it doesn't disintegrate in the sauce while in the oven? |
Originally Posted by youreadyfreddie
(Post 19661916)
Hey there enchilada fans! I had forgotten about this thread until Sweet Willie sent me a gentle reminder today.
Originally Posted by youreadyfreddie
(Post 19661916)
I apologize for anything that seems vague. I came up with this “recipe” on my own....
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In anticipation of making the traditional Wednesday-night-before-Thanksgiving enchiladas, just as the Pilgrims did, I checked out Wikipedia to see what they had to say about enchiladas. There are some interesting (and delicious-sounding) descriptions of the different varieties of enchiladas cited, including TMOliver's enchiladas moladas--stacked enchiladas, complete with a fried-egg layer. Check it out.
Thought you folks might find it of interest. :) ----Edit---- Caught myself in a misspelling in my post above. It should be enchiladas montadas in my post above. I had "mole" on the brain at the time I was posting. "Montadas" refers to the stacked enchiladas while "enmoladas" refers to enchiladas prepared with mole sauce as opposed to chile sauce--hence . . . "molada" vs "chilada". Molada = mole sauce, chilada = chile sauce. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . enchiladas. :) |
I am lazy with enchilada making these days and simply layer them in the appropriate sized souffle dish. I still griddle fry them before Layering them. The best part is that the leftovers don't dry out when reheating and the souffle dish takes up less room in fridge.
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Originally Posted by lalala
(Post 19687870)
I am lazy with enchilada making these days and simply layer them in the appropriate sized souffle dish. I still griddle fry them before Layering them. The best part is that the leftovers don't dry out when reheating and the souffle dish takes up less room in fridge.
A note on enchilada sauces: Many US based chains (most often "TexMex" style) use a sauce dark red "chili gravy" sauce w/o tomato, while the more traditional canned sauces (Mexican brands or produced in Border States) have a good bit of tomato and far less 9if any) "meat" flavor/content. The canned and most restaurant "Green Chile" sauces tend to be thickened a bit with one or another starch (at home, often a light "roux") as part of the prep. More rarely encountered or prepared are the Tomatillo-based sauces, more acidic and un-thickened, and the Puebla-style "Green Mole" which can be muy picante, but sure good with pork. Then there are "Suizas", using a sour cream based sauce, most often a chicken filling, and now and again topped with Swiss cheese. In Mexico, at least in my long-ago memories, enchiladas filled with beef (or any meat) were the exception rather than the rule. |
Originally Posted by Non-NonRev
(Post 19621694)
Couldn't agree more. Even worse is making them with flour tortillas :eek: :eek:
My version (learned from my mom) is close to yours, only difference is sliced black olives instead of the habaneros). I like the "El Pato" brand of store-bought sauce http://pics.mexgrocer.com/images/1280.jpg |
Originally Posted by youreadyfreddie
(Post 19679264)
In anticipation of making the traditional Wednesday-night-before-Thanksgiving enchiladas, just as the Pilgrims did, I checked out Wikipedia to see what they had to say about enchiladas. There are some interesting (and delicious-sounding) descriptions of the different varieties of enchiladas cited, including TMOliver's enchiladas moladas--stacked enchiladas, complete with a fried-egg layer. Check it out.
Thought you folks might find it of interest. :) ----Edit---- Caught myself in a misspelling in my post above. It should be enchiladas montadas in my post above. I had "mole" on the brain at the time I was posting. "Montadas" refers to the stacked enchiladas while "enmoladas" refers to enchiladas prepared with mole sauce as opposed to chile sauce--hence . . . "molada" vs "chilada". Molada = mole sauce, chilada = chile sauce. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . enchiladas. :) |
Far enough afield, but worth mentioning in the casserole vein, an old USAian adaptation of tamales, "Tamale Pie", a shallow dish, the bottom filled with about 1' of a "wet" meat filling, then topped by a masa/corn meal-based "batter" and baked until the batter is set, served with grated cheese and chopped onions and salsa. The best example I recall used chopped pork "al pastor" moistened with a red chili sauce.
I suspect that the 'original" was a 1950's purely "Anglo" concoction of ground beef sauteed with onions and a little chili powder, topped with corn bread batter, then "Mexicanized" by later preparers. |
A slight veer off topic, but still within the same barrio as enchiladas, I'm going to try my hand at tamales for the first time. I found this wonderful family history and illustrated (photographed) recipe: Grandma Salazar's Tamales. It's worth a read even if you aren't going to make the tamales. I'll let you know how they turn out.
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