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BuildingMyBento Sep 8, 2012 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by SalishSea (Post 19275021)
This summer we popped into a place in Soldotna, Alaska, and discovered that in addition to their Greek/Italian/Mexican cuisine, they now offer sushi as well. :eek:

That's only three continents. Why not add some injera and tibs to the mix?

BuildingMyBento Sep 8, 2012 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by swag (Post 19276727)
I don't really know - from what I've seen, the true taquerias are mostly located in the neighborhoods with lots of Mexican residents. I don't get to those areas often enough, I can't really judge the marketplace.

The Mexican fusion I've seen tends to lean more on the fused flavors, and use Mexican for the construction. For example, the Ssahm truck's tacos are meats (or soy) with a korean marinade, plus Sesame Soy Vinaigrette Salad, Caramelized Kimchee, Cilantro & Onion, Korean Salsa Roja, Spicy Mayo, served on 6″ Corn Tortillas. I'd say the cilantro is the only real Mexican flavor.

Likewise, a local Irish pub serves "Irish nachos", but it uses potato slices instead of tortilla chips, and corned beef and cabbage as the dominant toppings. The jack & cheddar cheeses add some mexican flavors, but it's more Irish in flavor, Mexican in appearance.

Irish nachos, that sounds pretty good actually.

I'm not from LA, but a mate pointed out that it used to be a pub, and now it's...http://www.mashtimalone.com/legend.htm Iranian ice cream.

nerd Sep 8, 2012 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by swag (Post 19276727)
Likewise, a local Irish pub serves "Irish nachos", but it uses potato slices instead of tortilla chips, and corned beef and cabbage as the dominant toppings. The jack & cheddar cheeses add some mexican flavors, but it's more Irish in flavor, Mexican in appearance.

Irish nachos are great ^ (saw them for the first time around 17 years ago at McGee's in Chicago).

But how are they a "Cuisine That Shouldn't Start With Fusion"? :confused:

SWCPHX Sep 9, 2012 4:15 pm

There is a small local chain in the PHX area called Chino Bandido Takee Outee. They mix Chinese (well American Chinese), with Americanized Mexican, with Jamaican flavors so that you can end up with an orange chicken quesadilla or burrito with a side of jerk fried rice. It's awesome! And every meal comes with a snickerdoodle cookie for dessert or fudgy chocolate volcano cookie on Sundays.

http://www.chinobandido.com/

CMK10 Sep 10, 2012 10:17 am


Originally Posted by SWCPHX (Post 19283838)
There is a small local chain in the PHX area called Chino Bandido Takee Outee. They mix Chinese (well American Chinese), with Americanized Mexican, with Jamaican flavors so that you can end up with an orange chicken quesadilla or burrito with a side of jerk fried rice. It's awesome! And every meal comes with a snickerdoodle cookie for dessert or fudgy chocolate volcano cookie on Sundays.

http://www.chinobandido.com/

Has that been there for a while? I want to say I went to a Chinese/Mexican fusion place (and had an orange chicken burrito I think) maybe five years ago. It was really good though. I think it was in Chandler, too.

SWCPHX Sep 10, 2012 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 19288263)
Has that been there for a while? I want to say I went to a Chinese/Mexican fusion place (and had an orange chicken burrito I think) maybe five years ago. It was really good though. I think it was in Chandler, too.

Dobson and Chandler location has been there for a few years.

BuildingMyBento Sep 10, 2012 9:53 pm


Originally Posted by SWCPHX (Post 19283838)
There is a small local chain in the PHX area called Chino Bandido Takee Outee. They mix Chinese (well American Chinese), with Americanized Mexican, with Jamaican flavors so that you can end up with an orange chicken quesadilla or burrito with a side of jerk fried rice. It's awesome! And every meal comes with a snickerdoodle cookie for dessert or fudgy chocolate volcano cookie on Sundays.

http://www.chinobandido.com/

I can't stand American Chinese food, but throw jerk into a corn tortilla with lime and frijoles and I'm a believer. Have they expanded into Vegas or Southern California?

But, where does a snickerdoodle cookie fit in? I hate to say it, but the first "eatery chain" I think of when it comes to cookies is Subway, just because they are stolidly waiting by the cashier, getting staler than asking about NW's DC-9s at Airliners.net...

braslvr Sep 10, 2012 10:33 pm


Originally Posted by Tad's Broiled Steaks (Post 19292088)
I can't stand American Chinese food

Really? None of it? I've had some very very tasty American Chinese food at certain higher end places, and even a couple of hole in the wall joints. Better than anything I had in over 2 months in Hong Kong. I can relate though as I have yet to find decent American Thai food.

SWCPHX Sep 11, 2012 6:48 am


Originally Posted by Tad's Broiled Steaks (Post 19292088)
Have they expanded into Vegas or Southern California?

Nope, I think they only have 2 or 3 in the PHX metro area.

BuildingMyBento Sep 11, 2012 10:38 am


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 19292289)
Really? None of it? I've had some very very tasty American Chinese food at certain higher end places, and even a couple of hole in the wall joints. Better than anything I had in over 2 months in Hong Kong. I can relate though as I have yet to find decent American Thai food.

Eh, diffrn't taste buds, mate. When I was younger, I'd only ever want egg rolls and mustard, but after living in China and Hong Kong for a spell, I appreciate more the barely-"sauced" steamed chicken with broccoli in the US.

You didn't like anything local in HK? I abhor that stuff just as much. Ditto Taiwan. Notable exceptions include har friggin' gau and a couple of fish dishes where the bones have vacated the premises.

beachmouse Sep 11, 2012 11:10 am

I hadn't realized how much my local Thai food scene seems to still be in sync with the homeland until I wandered into a discussion at Chowhound where there was much talk about how standard red ketchup was (shudder) an expected ingredient in pad thai in the Thai restaurants in their area.

There are actually as many or more Thai restaurants in my neck of the swamp these days as there are American Chinese restaurants, probably because the Chinese places have a hard-won reputation for being pretty terrible, and the Thais seem to have a decent handle on quality for a sub-$10 price point.

BuildingMyBento Sep 11, 2012 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by beachmouse (Post 19295389)
I hadn't realized how much my local Thai food scene seems to still be in sync with the homeland until I wandered into a discussion at Chowhound where there was much talk about how standard red ketchup was (shudder) an expected ingredient in pad thai in the Thai restaurants in their area.

There are actually as many or more Thai restaurants in my neck of the swamp these days as there are American Chinese restaurants, probably because the Chinese places have a hard-won reputation for being pretty terrible, and the Thais seem to have a decent handle on quality for a sub-$10 price point.


So many of the dishes in your 'hood are legit spicy then?

Not my favorite two cuisines (at least when eaten in the US), but the ketchup comment is interesting. Having brown sugar or (gasp) condensed milk in Filipino pasta is apparently de rigeur.

beachmouse Sep 11, 2012 5:41 pm

You can find Thai hot on a lot of menus 'round here. The key is convincing the staff that you really want it like that. A lot of them are reluctant to go full heat if they don't recognize you as a regular because they don't want you complaining about how the dish is too hot to eat.

Me, I stick to 'mild' for most dishes at my local strip mall place, and move up to medium only on the curries because the fat helps cut the heat because I'm inherently a bit of a peppers wimp.

beachmouse Dec 22, 2012 5:51 pm

I saw a sign for a new restaurant the other day advertising 'Korean, pizza, and breakfast food'. I think it's a sign that I've been living near Ft. Walton Beach too long when I just assumed there was a perfectly logical reason for this.

BuildingMyBento Dec 23, 2012 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by beachmouse (Post 19907593)
I saw a sign for a new restaurant the other day advertising 'Korean, pizza, and breakfast food'. I think it's a sign that I've been living near Ft. Walton Beach too long when I just assumed there was a perfectly logical reason for this.

Or, it's a sign I should pay a visit to Ft. Walton Beach...though I don't want to imagine what "US banchan" would look like. Let us know if you try it!


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