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tentseller Jan 24, 2012 12:59 pm

Biggest mistake people make is cook the heck out of the clams. Steaming them until open is one sure way of overcooking.
Best to open the clam and cook the meat no more than a minute.

cordelli Jan 24, 2012 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by PFKMan23 (Post 17878390)
Cordelli,

Any recommendations on brands/types of olive oil to buy?

We're currently working on a couple of bottles we brought back from some old woman with some olive trees and a hand painted sign on a dirt road from our last trip to Italy. She's in the GPS for the next trip over.

In the US I've become real partial to a store in Sonoma, they make their own and do mail order. Figones of California. A few of the wineries we do business with make some good oils too, if I'm buying wine I may fill one slot with a bottle of oil.

In New York, Fairway has some very good oils and most are at reasonable prices (reasonable price is of course totally subjective), and the Olive Oil company in Grand Central has some good oils, but is way too pricey.

I prefer a very strong grassy peppery dark green cloudy oil, which can be very hard to find unless the place has a great variety of oils. There's just not a market for that in the US. It's an acquired taste that like many things may take some building up to, but find a place that has several different types and lets you taste them. At first the straw/grass/pepper may be a bit strong, but give it a few tries and you may find it's really worth the extra money.

Ancien Maestro Jan 24, 2012 10:16 pm

At Old Spaghetti Factory.. I like my back ribs with spaghetti/clam sauce.. perfect combo..

tkey75 Jan 25, 2012 7:28 am


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 17878246)
  • The right type of clams (I prefer middle necks or cherrystones, wild, not farmed, and not processed) and they are fresh and juicy
  • Spectacular olive oil
  • strong flavored fresh garlic
  • properly cooked pasta
  • Prepared so the juice of the clams flavor the dish, not have the clams steamed over a pot releasing all their juice and placed on top of the pasta like so many places do it (so the idiot customer won't return it as tasting too "clammy")

It's 9:30am.

And not to early for clams. Man, I'm hungry. My SO is vegetarian and even she wants this.

PFKMan23 Jan 25, 2012 11:45 am


Originally Posted by tkey75 (Post 17883588)
It's 9:30am.

And not to early for clams. Man, I'm hungry. My SO is vegetarian and even she wants this.

Time for her to become pescetarian :)

tkey75 Jan 25, 2012 12:16 pm

Since you mention it, just last week, the Wahoo was so fresh on Kauai she tried a small bite. And didn't die :p

NYCFlyGirl Jan 26, 2012 7:18 am


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 17878246)
  • The right type of clams (I prefer middle necks or cherrystones, wild, not farmed, and not processed) and they are fresh and juicy
  • Spectacular olive oil
  • strong flavored fresh garlic
  • properly cooked pasta
  • Prepared so the juice of the clams flavor the dish, not have the clams steamed over a pot releasing all their juice and placed on top of the pasta like so many places do it (so the idiot customer won't return it as tasting too "clammy")

cordelli, your last point is the reason I haven't tried to make it myself -- I don't know how to cook the clams properly so that they flavor the sauce. Any tips?

slawecki Jan 26, 2012 8:51 am

regarding olive oil. the bottles are dated. after a year, time to get fresh oil.

cordelli Jan 26, 2012 9:46 am


Originally Posted by NYCFlyGirl (Post 17890452)
cordelli, your last point is the reason I haven't tried to make it myself -- I don't know how to cook the clams properly so that they flavor the sauce. Any tips?

Yeah, because of this thread I bought a sack of clams and made some last night. It was wonderful.


Because of the need some posters feel to argue the most simple of posts, I have deleted the way I make my clam sauce from this post. It was certainly not meant to bring on attacks implying I don't have clue what I'm doing. I don't feel it's worth the hassles, and in the future should somebody come across it I don't see the need for what has to be one of the stupidest discussions on Flyertalk to be brought back to the top of the list.

It really sucks that some people feel the need to get personal, it is what it is.

NYCFlyGirl Jan 28, 2012 8:20 am

cordelli, glad to have inspired what sounds like a great meal. Thanks for the step-by-step instructions.

I still wouldn't mind restaurant recommendations for pasta with clams, though, for when I'm traveling. :cool:

PSUhorty Jan 28, 2012 9:21 am


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 17891320)
In a deep skillet (or any pan the clams will fit into you can cover) while the pasta is cooking, I sauteed some hot pepper and pressed fresh garlic. Just enough oil so that they didn't stick, until the garlic started turning light brown.

I put the clams into the skillet without adding anything else to it. Sometimes we add a half cup of wine but didn't feel like opening a bottle last night. Cover it, and wait for the clams to release their juices and start opening. Remove them as they open to a dish or whatever. As soon as the heat gets to them they will start releasing juice, which will boil and steam to help them open.

Seems to me that by following this recommendation (lightly browning the garlic before adding the clams), the garlic would be burnt to hell by the time the clams open and release their juice.

Saute the hot peppers then add the garlic and clams at the same time.

Ancien Maestro Jan 28, 2012 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by NYCFlyGirl (Post 17903395)
cordelli, glad to have inspired what sounds like a great meal. Thanks for the step-by-step instructions.

I still wouldn't mind restaurant recommendations for pasta with clams, though, for when I'm traveling. :cool:

+1.. Cordelli's post is inspiring me to go to a restaurant and eat freshly made clam sauce on spaghetti.. just like mama makes it, but not at home..:D

cordelli Jan 30, 2012 8:18 am


Originally Posted by PSUhorty (Post 17903685)
Seems to me that by following this recommendation (lightly browning the garlic before adding the clams), the garlic would be burnt to hell by the time the clams open and release their juice.

Saute the hot peppers then add the garlic and clams at the same time.

Posts like this totally crack me up.

If you want to add the garlic later, go ahead, there's no clam police.

I'll continue to cook it the way I have for ages, never once having the garlic "burnt to hell"

PSUhorty Jan 30, 2012 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 17914612)
Posts like this totally crack me up.

If you want to add the garlic later, go ahead, there's no clam police.

I'll continue to cook it the way I have for ages, never once having the garlic "burnt to hell"

Eeeeeeasy there, Trigger.
Simply made an observation on your method and commented upon it. Chill a bit, eh?

violist Jan 30, 2012 8:40 pm

But putting the garlic and clams in at the same time is
likely to cause a less good-tasting dish. Don't listen to
the man behind the curtain: saute the garlic first in
ample oil. If you're worried about the stuff burning,
which you shouldn't, if you have any technique at all,
remove it with a slotted spoon and return it later when
all is nice and wet.


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