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Originally Posted by RobbieRunner (Post 17798379)

I have not imbibed in years.

However, when I did, I was very partial to "Knob Creek". Unique, elegant, and did the trick. ;)

I liked it so much, I stopped drinking my Favorite Scotch at the time, "Glenmorangie" pronounced like Orangie. I went through about 20 different Scotches before I found this, then started drinking Knob Creek Whiskey. Go figure.

Knob Creek is a bourbon, not a rye.

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Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 17765549)

I used to drink Wild Turkey Rye back in the 90's, but I read somewhere that there are more producers of good Rye now, though it is taking some years to reach the market due to aging. Is there a place that I could purchase a good bottle in NYC that anyone can recommend? I'll be visiting there soon and would love to grab a bottle to take home.

Regarding Irish Whiskey, I love that too so I posted in this thread about that. The Irish Whiskey Thread

Check out Park Avenue Liquor. Prices won't overwhelm you, but you should find their selection satisfactory.

http://www.parkaveliquor.com/

http://www.parkaveliquor.com/shop/scotchwhisky/122/rye

Bulleit makes a decent rye whiskey. In addition to their regular bourbon.

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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker (Post 17800365)

Bulleit makes a decent rye whiskey. In addition to their regular bourbon.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide

[email protected]

Their Rye is far superior to their Bourbon and unsurpassed at its price level IMO. I like some other Ryes better, but they all cost twice as much. wj

I was just walking down 9th ave in NYC and spotted a well stocked liquor store near 46th. They had several Rye's and I bought a bottle of Bulleit for $38 with tax.

This is going back to Europe with me. :) Thanks to everyone in this thread!

Whether rye was similar in taste to Irish whisky was asked earlier; certainly both are quite different from Scotch but that only makes them similar in the sense that all red wine is the same :) Ignoring the mass-market products (which are trying to be bland), Jameson is generally sweeter, lighter and more watery than rye, while rye has a unique flavour (not like rye bread, but on that line) and more viscous. Fine rye is remarkably nuanced and under-rated, making it cheap (at least in the US which doesn't tax alcohol much).

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Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 17808538)

Irish Whiskey and Scotch are both made from barley. Others will know better, but I think the difference between the 2 is that the Scots let the barley sprout and it's dried with various degrees of peat smoke. The Irish use the raw (unmalted), some malted, and no smoke. Irish is distilled 3X. Scotch 2X. Irish is generally lighter. There's lots of new barrel treatments with Irish now that are producing a fuller taste profile though. Rye tastes nothing like Irish (or Scotch for that matter). More like Bourbon. Lots of Bourbons have a pretty high rye content in addition to the corn. If you want to try something interesting - The fine Bourbon maker Pritchards, produces a Whiskey that's half barley and half rye. It's a roller coaster ride, but I prefer their bourbon actually. wj

Jack o' Diamonds, Jack o' Diamonds and I know you of old
You've robbed my poor pockets of silver and gold
It's a whiskey, you villain, you've been my downfall
You've kicked me, you've cuffed me, but I love you for all

It's a whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If I don't get rye whiskey, well, I think I will die

I'll eat when I'm hungry, I'll drink when I'm dry
If the hard times don't kill me, I'll lay down and die
I'll tune up my fiddle and I'll rosin my bow
I'll make myself welcome, wherever I go

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If a tree don't fall on me, I'll live till I die

Beefsteak when I'm hungry red liquor when I'm dry
Greenbacks when I'm hard up and religion when I die
They say I drink whiskey, my money's my own
All them that don't like me, can leave me alone

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If a tree don't fall on me, I'll live till I die

Sometimes I drink whiskey, sometimes I drink rum
Sometimes I drink brandy, at other times none
But if I get boozey, my whiskey's my own
And them that don't like me, can leave me alone

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If a tree don't fall on me, I'll live till I die

If the ocean was whiskey and I was a duck
I'd dive to the bottom to get one sweet suck
But the ocean ain't whiskey and I ain't a duck
So we'll round up the cattle and then we'll get drunk

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If the whiskey don't kill me, I'll live till I die

My foot's in my stirrup, my bridle's in my hand
I'm leaving sweet Lillie, the fairest in the land
Her parents don't like me, they say I'm too poor
They say I'm unworthy to enter her door

It's a whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If I don't get rye whiskey, well, I think I will die

Sweet milk when I'm hungry, rye whiskey when I'm dry
If a tree don't fall on me, I'll live till I die
I'll buy my own whiskey, I'll make my own stew
If I get drunk, madam, it's nothing to you

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If a tree don't fall on me, I'll live till I die

I'll drink my own whiskey, I'll drink my own wine
Some ten thousand bottles I've killed in my time
I've no wife to quarrel, no babies to bawl
The best way of living is no wife at all

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey, rye whiskey I cry
If a tree don't fall on me, I'll live till I die

Way up on Clinch Mountain I wander alone
I'm as drunk as the devil, oh, let me alone
You may boast of your knowledge an' brag of your sense
'Twill all be forgotten a hundred years hence

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey, you're no friend to me
You killed my poor daddy, God damn you, try me

Just a bump to say I think I've found the best Bourbon/Rye bar in the world. The Bourbon Bar at the Intercontinental Atlanta (Buckhead) has the largest selection of American whiskey I've ever seen or heard of. ^

"Jack of Diamonds"

I grew up with some alternative lyrics and chorus:

"Jack o'Diamond, Jack o'Diamonds, I cry.
If I don't get Jack o'Diamonds, I surely will die"

"If the ocean was whiskey and I was a duck
I'd dive to the bottom and never come up.
But the ocean ain't whiskey and I ain't a duck
So I'll play Jack o'Diamonds and trust to my luck."

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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker (Post 17800365)

Bulleit makes a decent rye whiskey. In addition to their regular bourbon.

Agreed, and like another here, I like the rye better than the Bourbon.

But then I grew up with "Old Overholt" and am hardly a connoisseur.

Presumably, the old category, Monongahela, indicated a rye-based whiskey.

Rye was the most popular whiskey in the country before it was banned. It has more forceful taste and inspired the creation of cocktails. Now curious drinkers and bartenders are increasingly seeking out the flavor of rye. The best value of rye is wild turkey 100 proof and the Concoction Creek rye which was my first experience to rye. It was local and dam tasty.

Bump to say I'm enjoying a nice 1L bottle of Knob Rye. Strong but good.