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GadgetFreak Jun 16, 2011 9:38 am

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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger

Originally Posted by missydarlin (Post 16566394)
Thats not sushi, thats musubi. YUM!

Well ... it qualified as "fake sushi" to me (Ohana in Belltown, BTW). My father refused to allow Spam in the house as he hated it during WW II as kid (meat substitute) - no liver either as my folks both hate it.

Heh. My dad was like that too. WWII vet and having to eat cold Spam during the war was apparently a very unpleasant experience. Oddly, he would occasionally eat cold Campbells soup right out of the can, a more favorable wartime experience apparently. Except my mom and I were both so weirded out by the latter we would harass him when he would do it ;) So I never tried Spam until I left for college. When you are young you tend to assume your parents are wrong about everything. As you get older you realize that isnt necessarily the case ;)

BLI-Flyer Jun 16, 2011 9:59 am

Cocktail wieners wrapped in bacon would be an excellent substitute for people who don't like fish, rice, or sushi. :D

GadgetFreak Jun 16, 2011 10:17 am

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Originally Posted by BLI-Flyer
Cocktail wieners wrapped in bacon would be an excellent substitute for people who don't like fish, rice, or sushi. :D

He, you laugh but I have been served those at a reception in Tsukuba. ;)

missydarlin Jun 16, 2011 11:58 am


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 16571787)
Well ... it qualified as "fake sushi" to me (Ohana in Belltown, BTW). My father refused to allow Spam in the house as he hated it during WW II as kid (meat substitute) - no liver either as my folks both hate it.

I lived in Hawaii for 4 1/2 years and I love me some fried up Spam.

I haven't tried the musubi at Ohana. Marination Mobile's musubi is a little dry, but their Spam slider is tasty.

My parents tried to make us eat liver until one night when the neighbor came over with their dog (who found the liver my brother had hid under the couch). They didn't serve it to us any more after that :)

Starwood Lurker Jun 16, 2011 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by missydarlin (Post 16572741)
...My parents tried to make us eat liver until one night when the neighbor came over with their dog (who found the liver my brother had hid under the couch). They didn't serve it to us any more after that :)

Mine finally got the message when I refused to eat it and told them I'd rather eat nothing at all. They made me sit at the table until I finished it, but finally relented after I fell asleep there and they were going to bed themselves. Fortunately, I never saw it again or there would have certainly been a repeat performance.

I think I can still taste the last liver I had from 14 years ago when a friend convincingly said, "But, you've never had it the way I make it." Don't fall for that line. I felt like I needed to rinse with lye to get the nastiness out of my mouth.

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Starwood Lurker Jun 16, 2011 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by Cloudship (Post 16504749)
Well, the idea is about theming and atmosphere as anythiong else. This will be a Japanese themed event, the sushi plays a big part of it. I didn't want those people who cant do rice to feel too out of place in the event. I have seen some recipes using cauliflower, might give that a shot but maybe I should spend more time trying to find a presentation style that fits japanese that may not be sushi.

If it weren't for the grilled meat on skewers they serve on the streets in Tokyo, I would probably starve there. I'm pretty sure that Anthony Bourdain did a show that featured these, so you might find some help by viewing that episode.

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Cloudship Jun 16, 2011 3:45 pm

Things never really flushed out with the idea. in hind sight is was less about "Japanese" than it was about presenting savory small items that looked exotic without feeling like a cocktail party. I liked the rice crispy idea, and the rolled bread. I will keep those in mind for the next time. I did not mean to criticize Japanese cooking, which is how it seemed to be taken by some. I was looking for something that perhaps was a little lest "authentic" and didn't take itself so seriously.

mjm Jun 16, 2011 6:33 pm


Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker (Post 16573820)
If it weren't for the grilled meat on skewers they serve on the streets in Tokyo, I would probably starve there. I'm pretty sure that Anthony Bourdain did a show that featured these, so you might find some help by viewing that episode.

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What a silly post. You make it sound like a backwater. More Michelin stars here than anywhere else in fact. :rolleyes:Try eating food in a restaurant next time too. Its amazing the things you will find. ;)

GadgetFreak Jun 16, 2011 6:58 pm

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Originally Posted by mjm

Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 16556039)
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Understand and agree. Fake sushi creeps me out. Good yakatori, yum ;)

That is an awesome suggestion for the OP actually. Grilled skewers are fun, delicious, can contain all kinds of acceptable ingredients, and can even be done in manner that includes the guests while it is cooking.

And, when you are next here, if your time allows, I will show a place you definitely want to return to again. :)

Thanks. That sounds very interesting. I'm giving a talk in Kyoto in the early fall. Haven't sorted schedule yet but going to Kyoto likely will need a day in Tokyo rather than arrive late afternoon and then have to go into the city and get on the train after a 12 hr flight.

mjm Jun 16, 2011 8:24 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 16574942)
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Thanks. That sounds very interesting. I'm giving a talk in Kyoto in the early fall. Haven't sorted schedule yet but going to Kyoto likely will need a day in Tokyo rather than arrive late afternoon and then have to go into the city and get on the train after a 12 hr flight.

Cool. Other than the 3rd week of October I am good. Looking forward to it.

Mike

pWei Jun 16, 2011 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by darthbimmer (Post 16555415)
For people who like rice but not fish, serve vegetarian makisushi (simple rolls). Common vegetarian ingredients include avocado, cucumber, and plum. You could also use cooked chicken or beef instead of fish, though at that point your food is becoming more Japanese-inspired than Japanese-- by which I mean that I've never seen "grilled steak maki" served anywhere in Japan.

There is kobe beef sushi though. Raw beef, nigiri.

braslvr Jun 16, 2011 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by pWei (Post 16575361)
There is kobe beef sushi though. Raw beef, nigiri.

And raw horse meat nigiri which I sampled on my last trip to Hokaido. Not bad at all.

Starwood Lurker Jun 17, 2011 10:30 am


Originally Posted by mjm (Post 16574840)
What a silly post. You make it sound like a backwater. More Michelin stars here than anywhere else in fact. :rolleyes:Try eating food in a restaurant next time too. Its amazing the things you will find. ;)

LOL. Sillier than you ever imagined, probably, as I never been to Japan and am likely never to go. :D It is merely an observation from the outside looking in and applies solely to my own perceptions, be they ignorant or real. ;) But, definitely not a condemnation of the food available in Japan. They obviously eat, so they must like it.

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GadgetFreak Jun 17, 2011 7:16 pm

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Well, we just had a great Japanese dinner in Manhattan with nary a bit of sushi in sight. I had yakatori and dumplings stuffed with Berkshire pork and vegetables for appetizers and tenzaru soba (buckwheat noodles with tempura shrimp and vegetables) for a main. They have their own buckwheat farm in Quebec so they get excellent flour and make the noodles.

mjm Jun 17, 2011 7:55 pm


Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker (Post 16578390)
LOL. Sillier than you ever imagined, probably, as I never been to Japan and am likely never to go. :D It is merely an observation from the outside looking in and applies solely to my own perceptions, be they ignorant or real. ;) But, definitely not a condemnation of the food available in Japan. They obviously eat, so they must like it.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
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Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide

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Alright you got me. :D

Well then since fair is fair and I have immensely enjoyed your city twice, when you come visit I will help you find a great meal or two over here. Open invitation.

:)

Mike


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