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ricski64 Jun 8, 2011 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by phedre (Post 16499580)
Oh it does take special equipment, but that equipment is dirt cheap.

Want to make the best steak you've ever tasted? Pick up one of these babies, preferably second hand. Scour your grandparents' attics and garages.

My personal favourite for filet mignon:

Start with excellent meat. Go to a butcher, not a grocery store. Make sure they're about 2" thick.
Slice pockets into the filets, and stuff with a tablespoon or so of good quality blue stilton cheese.
Rub lightly with olive oil, sprinkle with a generous amount of salt and fresh cracked pepper.
Let sit on the counter, loosely covered in foil, for about an hour so they warm up to room temperature. While this is happening, pre-heat your oven to about 500f. Toss in the cast iron skillet so it gets good and hot.
(You'll want to put the fan on here, and probably open the windows)
After about an hour, pull the skillet out of the oven and place it on a red hot stove top element. Let it get SMOKING hot.
Take your steaks (no more than two at a time, please!) and sear each side for 30 - 45 seconds. Once they're placed on the skillet, do NOT move them! They will hiss and spit and smoke - that's a good thing!
Place them into the hot oven for 2-3 minutes per side, depending on how thick they are and how much you like them cooked. Leave longer for medium, shorter for rare. I like mine rare, so I take them out after a few minutes.
Place your delicious steaks on a serving plate, cover loosely with foil, and let them sit for 5-10 minutes. Serve, and have delicious steak mouth-gasms.

I normally serve these with oven roasted sweet potatoes, conveniently roasted during that 1h waiting period, mashed up with a bit of salt, pepper, and butter.

sorry, THAT"S the way to do it Alberta style

jbdk Jun 12, 2011 12:39 pm

Ponderosa Steakhouses... 100% truly disgusting. Rather eat dog s... you get the point.

General_Flyer Jun 18, 2011 4:38 pm

That steakhouse up top of LAX TBIT..

Steak was bitter and charcoally..

I love going to Whole Foods to go and grab my steaks..

But what I do instead is that I grab 5-10 lbs worth of ribeye roast instead.

Marinade it overnight with rubs and spices, cook it in the oven at around 400F for 40 or so minutes.

Take it out, serve with side of mashed sweet potatoes and broiled asparagus spears..

For individual steaks, I'd just sear them and let it finish in the oven on broil for 5-10 minutes.

In the case of Kobe/Wagyu beef, you just want to sear it lightly before finishing it in the broiler for a 3 minute period.

matthoyle Jun 18, 2011 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by General_Flyer (Post 16585243)
That steakhouse up top of LAX TBIT..

Steak was bitter and charcoally..

I love going to Whole Foods to go and grab my steaks..

But what I do instead is that I grab 5-10 lbs worth of ribeye roast instead.

Marinade it overnight with rubs and spices, cook it in the oven at around 400F for 40 or so minutes.

Take it out, serve with side of mashed sweet potatoes and broiled asparagus spears..


For individual steaks, I'd just sear them and let it finish in the oven on broil for 5-10 minutes.

In the case of Kobe/Wagyu beef, you just want to sear it lightly before finishing it in the broiler for a 3 minute period.

Thank you General_Flyer for literally making my mouth water.... ;)

General_Flyer Jun 18, 2011 7:49 pm


Originally Posted by matthoyle (Post 16585845)
Thank you General_Flyer for literally making my mouth water.... ;)

May I suggest going to the nearest Whole Foods and get your rib roast there? :D I'd gladly give you my marinade recipe.. :)

number_6 Jun 18, 2011 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by General_Flyer (Post 16585243)
That steakhouse up top of LAX TBIT..

Steak was bitter and charcoally....

That's called "The Daily Grill" which is a small steakhouse chain originally started in Beverly Hills; now it is in T3 as well as TBIT and also by the Westin LAX ... so they seem to do well by the airport. I don't eat there (save my calories for on-board dining which is much better quality since I usually fly CX or QF from LAX).

General_Flyer Jun 18, 2011 7:52 pm


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 16585898)
That's called "The Daily Grill" which is a small steakhouse chain originally started in Beverly Hills; now it is in T3 as well as TBIT and also by the Westin LAX ... so they seem to do well by the airport. I don't eat there (save my calories for on-board dining which is much better quality since I usually fly CX or QF from LAX).

Ever since that piece of steak and subsequently my status rose and so does my travel class, I won't even bother eating there again.. :rolleyes: :D

VivoPerLei Jun 19, 2011 6:46 am


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 16585898)
That's called "The Daily Grill" which is a small steakhouse chain originally started in Beverly Hills; now it is in T3 as well as TBIT and also by the Westin LAX ... so they seem to do well by the airport. I don't eat there (save my calories for on-board dining which is much better quality since I usually fly CX or QF from LAX).

Same "Daily Grill" as in Bethesda, MD? Was invited there last week, but didn't have the steak.

indianwells Jun 19, 2011 7:02 am


Originally Posted by Lousie (Post 16445812)
Any steakhouse that can't serve up a decent steak is criminal in my eyes, I mean, that's what you're marketing yourself as - steak specialists - so you should be doing a good job!

The worst thing is when the steak is overcooked, and this happens so much I'm now quite reluctant to purchase steak anywhere but at the poshest of posh restaurants.

Why do so many restaurants think that if you ask for medium rare, it's acceptable to serve you something that's charred to a crisp, right through?! I've had to ask for my money back more than once (I won't ask them to redo the food - who knows what they might do to it....)

You pay before you eat? Was it at Sizzler? There's your problem right there...

YuropFlyer Jun 19, 2011 7:18 am


Originally Posted by indianwells (Post 16587453)
You pay before you eat? Was it at Sizzler? There's your problem right there...

pay before you eat isn't bad at all cost. I know plenty of self-service restaurants which do serve quite nice food, some even in the 25$ per meal range. (And the food you get is definitely better than what you would get at a 25$ service restaurant, as they safe on service but not on quality)

violist Jun 19, 2011 7:23 am


Originally Posted by lancebanyon (Post 16587403)
Same "Daily Grill" as in Bethesda, MD?
Was invited there last week, but didn't have the steak.

Yeah. All right food, but don't expect Morton's (across the lobby).

VivoPerLei Jun 19, 2011 7:36 am


Originally Posted by violist (Post 16587518)
Yeah. All right food, but don't expect Morton's (across the lobby).

Funny you should mention Morton's. On this last trip I tried Morton's, Rays the Steaks, and Ruth's Chris, all in Arlington. Morton's was by far the best. I'm still thinking about it.

dchristiva Jun 20, 2011 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by lancebanyon (Post 16587565)
Funny you should mention Morton's. On this last trip I tried Morton's, Rays the Steaks, and Ruth's Chris, all in Arlington. Morton's was by far the best. I'm still thinking about it.

Checking out the one in Crystal City next week. Given the Virginia ABC laws, maybe I'd be better off dining at the one in D.C. to make the most of my VIP membership. No free after-dinner drinks in VA.

N965VJ Jun 20, 2011 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by jbdk (Post 16547934)
Ponderosa Steakhouses... 100% truly disgusting. Rather eat dog s... you get the point.

Ponderosa is more like a family restaurant with a lot of red meat than a steakhouse. :D I'll take the sirloin tips there over anything served at Perkins.

Well, except the Ponderosa on International Drive in MCO; a huge echo chamber of kids. :eek:

Amicus Jun 20, 2011 9:06 pm

My spouse worked at Ponderosa as a teenager. Oh, the stories about this chain.
Don't know why anyone could nominate it as a "steakhouse." :eek:

My vote is still for Outback as the WORST, and so it was surprising to read a recent article that Outbacks are one of the top ten chains in the country. :confused:

CopperSteve Jun 22, 2011 7:11 pm

Probably not the worst in the world, but most dissapointing for me: Morton's at the Mandarin Oriental in Singapore. Not nearly up to the quality of a typical Morton's. My only expalanation is that the meat is not aged? :confused:

Paul79UF Jun 24, 2011 8:54 am

I've gone to some excellent and some very sub par steakhouses in Argentina.

They export most of their best beef and keep the lower quality stuff for the local population. So only the high end restaurants seemed to have really good meat.

Plus sometimes I feel like we were served the "gringo" cuts since they thought we wouldn't know any better. :rolleyes:

Bdubs Jun 24, 2011 9:20 pm

Skip the steakhouse in the LAX Marriott. Terrible.

audio-nut Jun 25, 2011 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 16499080)
Seriously? With mail-order, you can get very high-quality cuts of meat delivered to your door, and it doesn't take special equipment to make a great steak.

Frozen "high quality" steaks? no thanks

Ancien Maestro Jun 25, 2011 11:26 pm

Pub steaks.. cheap and terrible..

Serious.. good deal.. but you can bounce the steaks off the walls..

hjmanasa Jun 26, 2011 11:00 am

A steakhouse shouldn't be allowed on the Ponderosa sign IMO. Yes they serve it but so does Denny's.

Travel K Jun 26, 2011 11:52 am

I agree with the chain restaurants, Outback, Applebees's, etc as being the worst. Anytime something is that mass produced, the quality goes away. I remember when those restaurants used to be really good and quiet a treat to go too...not so much now.

Ancien Maestro Jun 26, 2011 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by k_malm (Post 16628235)
I agree with the chain restaurants, Outback, Applebees's, etc as being the worst. Anytime something is that mass produced, the quality goes away. I remember when those restaurants used to be really good and quiet a treat to go too...not so much now.

Generally tastes like rubber.. but if you're into that kind of stuff and the convenience of it..

But generally at the chains.. I'm not expecting gourmet.. that's for sure..

TravelLawyer Jul 5, 2011 9:35 pm

Ooh, fun. I want to play... I don't think people can count Outback and Ponderosa in this vote... Yes, they call themselves steakhouses, but it's definitely a different league than true steakhouses. Besides, when they charge $10-$20 for a steak, they are given a little bit of leeway, especially since a plate of spaghetti at IHOP almost costs that much nowadays. When I think "steakhouses" I think of Morton's, Ruth's Chris, etc.

Consistently, I've had bad experiences at Sam and Harry's. I've tried one in CA and one in IL. Both are equally blah. Which is a complete and utter shame considering how nicely appointed the restaurants are. But it seems like they care more about decor and ambiance than the actual food.

Also, the Palm has never been a favorite, which might explain why one of the Chicago locations closed a couple years ago. Steaks were dry and ambiance was eh. Nothing to write home about, despite spending $$$.

Easy Victor Jul 5, 2011 9:53 pm

The Palm is an interesting chain. The original ones in NY are excellent, as was the one that closed in Troy, MI (due to their awful location). The one in Chicago that closed was inedible. Went there once and couldn't believe how awful it was.



Originally Posted by AtomicLush (Post 16677818)
Ooh, fun. I want to play... I don't think people can count Outback and Ponderosa in this vote... Yes, they call themselves steakhouses, but it's definitely a different league than true steakhouses. Besides, when they charge $10-$20 for a steak, they are given a little bit of leeway, especially since a plate of spaghetti at IHOP almost costs that much nowadays. When I think "steakhouses" I think of Morton's, Ruth's Chris, etc.

Consistently, I've had bad experiences at Sam and Harry's. I've tried one in CA and one in IL. Both are equally blah. Which is a complete and utter shame considering how nicely appointed the restaurants are. But it seems like they care more about decor and ambiance than the actual food.

Also, the Palm has never been a favorite, which might explain why one of the Chicago locations closed a couple years ago. Steaks were dry and ambiance was eh. Nothing to write home about, despite spending $$$.


mjcewl1284 Jul 13, 2011 1:30 am

Any steak, their so-called "Trump Steak" in Trump owned casinos in Atlantic City. I had one of their steaks in the now sold off Trump Marina that may have been the worst steak in almost every aspect. 2 yrs had gone by and me being naive, had a steak at the Safari located inside Trump Taj Mahal. While not quite as bad as before, incredibly subpar.

Chain wise- TGI Friday's. I think Outback is borderline, sometimes I get a good steak there, sometimes I don't.

dchristiva Jul 13, 2011 11:38 am


Originally Posted by audio-nut (Post 16626211)
Frozen "high quality" steaks? no thanks

Oh. So you've tried them all? Please name the mail-order houses you've tried, and don't start with "Omaha Steaks".

Ancien Maestro Jul 14, 2011 12:19 am

I had a surprisingly good steak sandwich at Montana's..

Was pleasently surprised..

VFF1000000 Jul 19, 2011 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 16389561)
Inspired by the following content posted in the Where Are The Best Steakhouses In The World? thread...

...and my vote is still Gallagher’s Steakhouse in New York:Save us all some time and money as well as a mediocre to bad experience and please tell us: where are the worst steakhouses in the world to avoid, and why?

Worst: Carnevino in the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas. It was the most expensive cut of beef I've ever had (over $100) and sent it back three times to be cooked properly. Plus, it was extra fatty and chewy. RIPPED OFF.

nothing spectacular: Flemings, Shula's, Capital Grill

Above average: Del Frisco (but they dont allow you to bring in outside wine) They did provide pure silver coins through the years as a momento to VIP--kinda cool

Good moderate price restaurant: Wildfire

Favorite: Mastro's Beverly Hills, great steak, service ****, plus the chocolate cake for desert is unbelievable.

Second favorite: Mortons anywhere

Worst mailorder: Omaha steaks
Best mailorder, www.stockyards.com

Most unusual (and historical): Buckhorn Exchange in Denver www.buckhorn.com

I ate at a Canadian restaurant in Dec, next door to Aux De Canadians, in Quebec. Waiters in white coats cooked a huge chunk of filet at the table and it was awesome. I dont recall the name.

VFF1000000 Jul 19, 2011 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by Amicus (Post 16597192)
My spouse worked at Ponderosa as a teenager. Oh, the stories about this chain.
Don't know why anyone could nominate it as a "steakhouse." :eek:

My vote is still for Outback as the WORST, and so it was surprising to read a recent article that Outbacks are one of the top ten chains in the country. :confused:

I worked at Ponderosa back in the 80's. We used to put steaks in the dishwasher to quick thaw them when a large group rolled in. The Super Sirloins took forever to thaw...the sirloin tips and ribeyes bring back fond memories.

Ancien Maestro Jul 19, 2011 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by VFF1000000 (Post 16760709)
I worked at Ponderosa back in the 80's. We used to put steaks in the dishwasher to quick thaw them when a large group rolled in. The Super Sirloins took forever to thaw...the sirloin tips and ribeyes bring back fond memories.

Funny.. the thawing techniques..

will have to try that one..;)

I've tried the ribeye at Ponderosa while in Orlando.. not bad.. and cheap.. I don't expect any quality.. just a steak..

N965VJ Jul 20, 2011 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by VFF1000000 (Post 16760709)
I worked at Ponderosa back in the 80's. We used to put steaks in the dishwasher to quick thaw them when a large group rolled in.

And here I thought that soapy taste was cilantro. :eek::D

Ancien Maestro Jul 20, 2011 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 16764638)
And here I thought that soapy taste was cilantro. :eek::D

LOL!:D

mjcewl1284 Jul 23, 2011 11:06 pm


Originally Posted by VFF1000000 (Post 16760691)
Worst: Carnevino in the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas. It was the most expensive cut of beef I've ever had (over $100) and sent it back three times to be cooked properly. Plus, it was extra fatty and chewy. RIPPED OFF.

I forget which restaurant I had a steak in at the Venetian Las Vegas, but I remember it was remarkably mediocre for about $75. I don't think it was Carnevino though.

dartagnan Jul 24, 2011 10:45 am


Originally Posted by mjcewl1284 (Post 16785679)
I forget which restaurant I had a steak in at the Venetian Las Vegas, but I remember it was remarkably mediocre for about $75. I don't think it was Carnevino though.

Might have been Cut, from Wolfgang Puck? I had a steak there that would not fit on this list, but my buddy had worked with the chef for several years prior at other restaurants and we were well taken care of...

Ancien Maestro Jul 24, 2011 11:01 am


Originally Posted by mjcewl1284 (Post 16785679)
I forget which restaurant I had a steak in at the Venetian Las Vegas, but I remember it was remarkably mediocre for about $75. I don't think it was Carnevino though.

Perhaps paying for the name.. and not the steak?

jaburu Jul 25, 2011 7:54 am


Originally Posted by lancebanyon (Post 16503137)
Well, I live in rural Germany so I'm guessing there isn't a company that will ship out here, but on the other hand, who knows?

Why not - there are plenty of companies shipping to Germany and the "Deutsche Post" doesn't make any difference whether they deliver to Berlin/Cologne/Hamburg or to Oettingshausen ;)
Just google for some key words (e.g. steak online bestellen) and you get lots of sites.
However, if you live in a rural place chances are good there is a local butcher which might sell meat with a really good quality, at least that’s my experience.

Ancien Maestro Jul 25, 2011 11:48 pm

Was at an all-inclusive promo tour package.. Aventura Palace by Playa del Carmen.. meal came with the package..

So basically the hotel buffet.. The Sirloin was about as freshly bland as it comes.. a steak none the less I guess..

mcditolla Jul 26, 2011 9:20 am

Worst has got to be our local Phleghmings....

Best was actually at Gallaghers in the NYNY in LV, a dry aged slice of perfection. Not as good second time we went, but still strong.

Ancien Maestro Jul 26, 2011 10:04 am


Originally Posted by mcditolla (Post 16800087)
Worst has got to be our local Phleghmings....

Best was actually at Gallaghers in the NYNY in LV, a dry aged slice of perfection. Not as good second time we went, but still strong.

Second time.. isn't always a charm it seems..

Perhaps it has something to do with us, rather than the steaks..

I had a great Filet Mignon at La Laguna yesterday Fairmont Mayakoba Riviera Maya.^


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