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JY1024 Jul 19, 2010 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by dabears1020 (Post 14326031)
Being young, I find that about 90% of the time when my friends and I go out to eat, the server will split our check without us even asking.

When I lived in the South, I found that most servers would ask "together or separate checks?" When I moved up North, I've found that 99% presume it's just one check. Even when in college in the Boston area, I don't remember a single occasion where the server automatically split the check for us without us having to ask. Granted, when I have explicitly asked either before or after the meal to split the bill, 99% of the time, there isn't a problem at all.

BearX220 Jul 19, 2010 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by thegeneral (Post 14326231)
Say two couples are out for dinner. It's more common in a nice place to have either one pickup the bill or one spouse from each couple throw down a card and split it.

Isn't that exactly what I said in #6 above? :confused:

nkedel Jul 19, 2010 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by BearX220 (Post 14320099)
If you don't ask up front, it's OK at the finish to plunk down two or three credit cards and ask the server to charge them all equally.

Indeed - or at whatever amount you'd like them split ("put $30 on his and the rest on mine")

That's not separate checks, though - if you ask the server to figure out the split for you at the end, they may or may not be able to.

mike_asia Jul 19, 2010 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by JY1024 (Post 14326966)
When I lived in the South, I found that most servers would ask "together or separate checks?" When I moved up North, I've found that 99% presume it's just one check. Even when in college in the Boston area, I don't remember a single occasion where the server automatically split the check for us without us having to ask. Granted, when I have explicitly asked either before or after the meal to split the bill, 99% of the time, there isn't a problem at all.

do you think the people in the south are cheaper than in the north? What do you think the reason is?

withatwist Jul 19, 2010 6:09 pm


Originally Posted by thegeneral (Post 14326231)
Really? You've personally inspected every computer system that every single restaurant uses across the country? Provide some proof or you should qualify or retract that statement.

Do you have any experience or data suggesting otherwise? This isn't meant to be a dissertation here. I have a fair amount of knowledge in the industry so I generally know what I'm talking about.

Most restaurants use only a handful of POS systems. Any of which are capable of splitting checks, and much more. Servers can split by who ordered what, or just evenly split the total by 2/3/4+ people. They can also combine checks if one person offers to pick up a tab. If a restaurant does use an older, more obscure system that does not provide this functionality, the original check can just be voided, and the server can re-enter the orders onto separate checks.

However, splitting a check between 8..10..15 people is time consuming. It is even more time consuming to then collect 15 credit cards, swipe each card, organize all of the receipts and deliver them to the respective guest. Still not done, the server collects all 15 signed copies (hoping they didn't forget to sign, or didn't take the signed copy with them, which often happens), and has to go back to the computer to enter each of the tips. More receipts, more work for the server, who hasn't been able to refill drinks or deliver food to their other tables and now those guests are unhappy and probably will leave a smaller tip.

Suffice it to say, when a server says the computer wont do it, this is why.




Originally Posted by mike_asia (Post 14327393)
do you think the people in the south are cheaper than in the north? What do you think the reason is?

If a restaurant's client base is a lot of business lunches, birthdays, families, couples etc. I'd assume less split checks. If there are mainly younger, single customers or students then split checks are the norm. I wouldn't assume any correlation between North/South and "cheapness" without first taking into considering many other factors.

thegeneral Jul 19, 2010 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by IAHRyan (Post 14326679)
There are only a few big vendors of these types of systems, and yes, they all allow you to split retroactively. It’s a quite simple drag-and-drop operation with a modern system.

Could a restaurant have used some obscure vendor? Sure, but most are on a Micros system.

I'm fully aware that there are a few big vendors. Nothing I said was that there weren't just a few vendors. That there are a few big vendors doesn't mean that people should be walking into a restaurant saying that, "Oh I read on flyertalk that every restaurant in the universe can split checks in their system"


I've heard servers say the computer won't let them do it after the order was entered in. This isn't true. Ask for a manager.

If a restaurant does use an older, more obscure system that does not provide this functionality, the original check can just be voided, and the server can re-enter the orders onto separate checks.
So is it not true or are you saying that it is true? You're contradicting yourself here. Should the first statement you made, that you personally are sure that each and every restaurant in a country of ~300 million people can do this, when why would you need to make that state of about if a restaurant uses an older system.

Please, either provide some evidence that you personally are sure that 100% of all food establishments can do this or man up and retract what you said. You 'generally' know what you're talking about and have a 'fair' amount of industry knowledge, but you are somehow omniscient when it comes to point of sale systems in every food establishment in the country.

cblaisd Jul 19, 2010 9:56 pm

Done.

cblaisd
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