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alpen1 Oct 26, 2011 4:37 am

We've got it in all the shops here in St. Croix...I think it was $45 or $50 a bottle, saw it this past weekend for the first time, now going to have to go try it!

Jenbel Oct 26, 2011 5:23 am


Originally Posted by jbcarioca (Post 16980149)
Lagavulin is another Diageo corporate product, marketed as if it is the real thing. Bowmore, the first legal distillery on Islay, has some quite excellent ones. Caol Ila does also, but both of those have a less phenolic taste than does Lagavulin. Port Ellen is one of my personal favorites. Although the distillery shut down in 1983 some of the old casks are still being bottled and sold. They vary widely by bottling, but I have never met one that I did not love.

I am a fan of Double Black, because at US$40 per litre it makes an affordable everyday "Islay" even though it too is just another Diageo, thus has much in common with Lagavulin.

I do miss the pre-Diageo Lagavulin and Laphroaig, which after all had much common lineage including being in adjoining towns. They still win competitions but they've lost a great deal of character IMO.

Maybe I just prefer non-multinational products when I am paying a premium price. Pretentious, moi?

I think describing 'Lagavulin' and 'Laphroaig' as being from adjoining towns is really stretching the definition of towns :D This is a small island with associated population levels. I think settlement or houses best describes the few houses you find around each distillery. I struggle even to think of the largest settlement on the island, Bowmore, as a town.

Try Ardbeg if you are looking for something non-corporate? We got a great, very personal tour of Ardbeg on the second Island Do, for the very early arrivals.

Stewie Mac Oct 26, 2011 4:27 pm

Double Black finally in the UK
 
saw it in LHR DF yesterday, apparently they've had it for about a month so obviously sorted the tiff with diageo.

iirc it was £27 for a litre, which is pretty good - will probably pick a bottle up next week to try.

Shareholder Nov 14, 2011 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by WCT3U (Post 17318125)
It's here! A local liquor store in upstate NY has Double Black on the shelf for $41.99, 0.750L. They said it arrived last week.

Being advertised in the Toronto market with billboards just in time for Christmas. The price is $69.95! This compares with $99 for two at the YYZ Duty Free.

BryanIAH Nov 14, 2011 9:38 pm

I restocked last weekend. $43/L from CO onboard duty free and $48/L at GIG duty free.

troyb Nov 14, 2011 9:55 pm

Finally caved and grabbed a bottle at LHR for about USD 45

james318 Nov 15, 2011 5:12 pm

One of the specialty grocery stores in Detroit has it. I really need to pick a bottle up... I've HAD it before, so no rush this time.

bmvaughn Nov 25, 2011 12:33 am

$38 here in SIN. About to leave the SKL and go grab a bottle.

WCT3U Nov 26, 2011 5:52 pm

The JW Black comes in (at least) 0.75L, 1.14L and 1.75L bottles. Is Double Black available in something larger than the 0.75L bottle?

bmvaughn Nov 26, 2011 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by WCT3U (Post 17519385)
The JW Black comes in (at least) 0.75L, 1.14L and 1.75L bottles. Is Double Black available in something larger than the 0.75L bottle?

The $38 bottle I bought in SIN is 1L.

GadgetFreak Nov 26, 2011 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by bmvaughn (Post 17519403)
The $38 bottle I bought in SIN is 1L.

The ones I have bought on LHR-JFK flights have been a liter as well.

BryanIAH Nov 26, 2011 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by WCT3U (Post 17519385)
The JW Black comes in (at least) 0.75L, 1.14L and 1.75L bottles. Is Double Black available in something larger than the 0.75L bottle?

I have only seen 1L bottles.

Gaucho100K Dec 4, 2011 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by jbcarioca (Post 17123147)
Despite Diageo promises I have yet to see DB outside of Duty Free.

My local Diageo rep say this is supposed to stay only Duty Free for some time.....

troyb Dec 4, 2011 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 17565203)
My local Diageo rep say this is supposed to stay only Duty Free for some time.....

They have it at every liquor store I go to in northern NJ.

BryanIAH Dec 4, 2011 1:34 pm

SPEC's (TX chain) finally got some. $36 + tax per 750mL.

broadwayblue Dec 4, 2011 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by troyb (Post 17565232)
They have it at every liquor store I go to in northern NJ.

Same here in NY. But reviews are generally mediocre. My cousin bought a bottle and was not impressed. Pretty sure like regular JW Black it's only bottled at 40%.

BryanIAH Dec 4, 2011 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by broadwayblue (Post 17567528)
Same here in NY. But reviews are generally mediocre. My cousin bought a bottle and was not impressed. Pretty sure like regular JW Black it's only bottled at 40%.

My bottle is 40%.

GadgetFreak Dec 5, 2011 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by broadwayblue

Originally Posted by troyb (Post 17565232)
They have it at every liquor store I go to in northern NJ.

Same here in NY. But reviews are generally mediocre. My cousin bought a bottle and was not impressed. Pretty sure like regular JW Black it's only bottled at 40%.

Well, I think it depends on the price. At roughly $40 a liter I think it is a good value. As I mentioned upthread we couldn't find it at the store and bought an Ardbeg instead. The Ardbeg was better but also like $130 a fifth.

Doppy Dec 5, 2011 8:16 am

Better than regular Black if you like peat, but not mind blowing. $38 in Dubai duty free; a good purchase.

broadwayblue Dec 5, 2011 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 17569118)
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Well, I think it depends on the price. At roughly $40 a liter I think it is a good value. As I mentioned upthread we couldn't find it at the store and bought an Ardbeg instead. The Ardbeg was better but also like $130 a fifth.

Which Ardbeg are you referring to? I just opened a bottle of their 10 year old and it set me back $47...it's readily available online for that price. To me that's a better deal than a liter of double black for $40.

GadgetFreak Dec 5, 2011 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by broadwayblue (Post 17570814)
Which Ardbeg are you referring to? I just opened a bottle of their 10 year old and it set me back $47...it's readily available online for that price. To me that's a better deal than a liter of double black for $40.

It was one of their special bottlings. 1990 Special Reserve. Airigh Nam Beist it was called I believe.

broadwayblue Dec 5, 2011 5:28 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 17571940)
It was one of their special bottlings. 1990 Special Reserve. Airigh Nam Beist it was called I believe.

Ah yes, the Beist. Been looking for a bottle of that! I'm told Binny's has it in stock for $86 with tax...but sadly I am not within a short ride of IL. Mileage run opportunity? lol Everywhere else it does appear to sell for around the price you paid...assuming you can find it. Anyway, striking out on the Nam Beist I picked up a bottle of Uigeadail instead for $59. It actually just arrived this evening.

dhammer53 Jan 8, 2012 9:51 pm

Earlier in this thread I posted that I wasn't a big fan of this. The last 2 nights, I had a shot and have to say the flavor was nice and smokey. Think Islay.
Tomorrow, I'll drink this the way I usually do. A hint of water and a couple of ice cubes for sipping.

Who knows. Maybe this is meant to be chugged?

Eastbay1K Jan 8, 2012 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by dhammer53 (Post 17776076)
Earlier in this thread I posted that I wasn't a big fan of this. The last 2 nights, I had a shot and have to say the flavor was nice and smokey. Think Islay.
Tomorrow, I'll drink this the way I usually do. A hint of water and a couple of ice cubes for sipping.

Who knows. Maybe this is meant to be chugged?

You non-committal tease a day prior to two duty free shops plus onboard sales.

WCT3U Jan 9, 2013 9:49 am

FYI. This came to my inbox this morning:


For those with a taste for the truly intense, we have exciting news: Johnnie Walker Double Black™ is back.

jbcarioca Jan 11, 2013 4:44 am


Originally Posted by dhammer53 (Post 17776076)
Earlier in this thread I posted that I wasn't a big fan of this. The last 2 nights, I had a shot and have to say the flavor was nice and smokey. Think Islay.
Tomorrow, I'll drink this the way I usually do. A hint of water and a couple of ice cubes for sipping.

Who knows. Maybe this is meant to be chugged?

The first time I saw DB I ignored it as i ignore all the poor JW blends, no matter how expensive they are. Then my pusher at LHR T3 urged me to try it blind. I liked all three of the Islays, except that one was DB!:confused:
How could that be?

As I have already said DB is now my daily tipple primarily because of the regular $35-40 prices I find in Duty Free shops.

However, last night I finished my last remaining bottle of Signatory bottled Port Ellen 1979 (I thought it was all gone and was overjoyed to find this one, preserved with the wine vacuum system I use for Whisky). Without a doubt that remains the finest whisky I have ever tasted. Now if I can sneak out to buy another bottle, a bargain now at only US$352 :eek::eek:

ayaron Jan 26, 2013 1:06 pm

stumbled across a site that lets you compare prices of duty free items along your route. Might be helpful for some. They are still in Beta (work in progress..) so are missing destinations, and product offering not complete, but a nice conncept. www.dutyfreebee.com

milepig Jun 3, 2013 12:22 pm

Double Black popped up at my Costco this weekend. $32 for 750ml.

uszkanni Jun 3, 2013 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 20858596)
Double Black popped up at my Costco this weekend. $32 for .75ml.

Hmmm, that's pretty damn expensive! ;)

milepig Jun 3, 2013 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 20858596)
Double Black popped up at my Costco this weekend. $32 for 750ml.


Originally Posted by uszkanni (Post 20859949)
Hmmm, that's pretty damn expensive! ;)

Sigh. Now fixed. :D

WCT3U Aug 14, 2013 12:53 pm

I just received an e-mail from Johnnie Walker... Looks like the Platinum label will be available in the USA shortly.

kipper Aug 14, 2013 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by WCT3U (Post 21272686)
I just received an e-mail from Johnnie Walker... Looks like the Platinum label will be available in the USA shortly.

I received the same email.

Shareholder Aug 21, 2013 4:31 pm

I've not seen Platinum over here in NAmerica yet, but the Explorer series has been popping up in airport Duty Frees around the continent, USA and Canada, not sure about Mexico.

rjkgr Aug 22, 2013 11:29 am

what does double black mean? is that like equal a blue? or green? johnnie walker?

broadwayblue Aug 22, 2013 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by rjkgr (Post 21317633)
what does double black mean? is that like equal a blue? or green? johnnie walker?

no, it's just a bolder smokier version of black. still not as good as everything else except red, which nobody should be drinking anyway.

broadwayblue Aug 22, 2013 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 21313183)
I've not seen Platinum over here in NAmerica yet, but the Explorer series has been popping up in airport Duty Frees around the continent, USA and Canada, not sure about Mexico.

Platinum is out in NYC. Not something I would purchase as there are tons of better options at the $100 price point...but I do expect I'll come into a bottle during the holidays.

Moving Chicane Aug 26, 2013 11:42 am

Not a JW drinker here either (I keep one or two Blue's on hand for parties), but the Double Black (from Costco after seeing it in the Duty Free's around the world) is quite enjoyable. :)

milepig Aug 26, 2013 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by Moving Chicane (Post 21338422)
Not a JW drinker here either (I keep one or two Blue's on hand for parties), but the Double Black (from Costco after seeing it in the Duty Free's around the world) is quite enjoyable. :)

I'm a single malt guy, but the price can add up. Double Black, which continues to be a steal at Costco, is a reasonable substitute for those occasions when I don't feel like breaking out the good stuff.

rjkgr Aug 26, 2013 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by broadwayblue (Post 21320375)
no, it's just a bolder smokier version of black. still not as good as everything else except red, which nobody should be drinking anyway.

wait what do u mean smokier? and oh okay cool

Shareholder Aug 30, 2013 7:27 am


Originally Posted by Moving Chicane (Post 21338422)
Not a JW drinker here either (I keep one or two Blue's on hand for parties), but the Double Black (from Costco after seeing it in the Duty Free's around the world) is quite enjoyable. :)

What's the CostCo price? 750ml or litre bottle?


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