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I don't pay tips. In our country, we havn't habit to pay some tips. And last week, i go to drink a cup of coffee, it's so light.
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Originally Posted by redheadtempe33
(Post 17409900)
In practice, most servers "claim" enough tips to bring their wage up to the minimum, and then keep the rest off the books (non taxable, non reported income).
An ex of mine spent years working at a high level chain in Southern California where corporate automatically reported 10% of all bills to the IRS no matter what the actual tip was. In her case the averages where much higher but the effective impact before any actual claims was that her minimum wage pay got taken away for taxes before she ever got the check. From talking to other servers I'm hearing that this has become the norm and often even at higher assumed withholding. What was an acceptable risk for a local dinner doesn't work in an age of chains and brand names. And, while I've heard less stats on it, even the dinner type servers have had to adjust to a degree due to the mass use of plastic and the realization by owners that that if the server doesn' claim the income, the restaurant is going to have too -- paper leaves an ugly trail. The best "under the table" tips I've heard about in recent years were actually from coffee shop employees. The morning shift has a lot of regulars who know their drink costs perfectly and know the game enough to tip cash, be it the change from the order or more. For years I had friends who would pay for dinner in one dollar bills, and yes, they got a lot of looks. :eek: That said, I've been taught [by former servers no less] that tipping is about the service first and the economics of the location. To me this makes the most sense... If you're working at a place that pays nearly nothing as a base and do an eh job, I'm not going to ignore it... I'll still tip but it won't be 20%. On the other hand if you're doing a great job at a coffee shop, sub store or other place where tipping isn't the general practice, well, you went above and beyond and I'll leave something -- to thank you for the attention, not because it should be expected, if you want a regular tip, work in a place where compensation is based on service level. |
Originally Posted by emma69
(Post 17017570)
But that comes back to the question someone posed earlier - if you tip at Starbucks, why don't you tip at Burger King? They are both doing the same job, serving you food / drink while you stand and wait for it, and then take it away, or drink/eat at the table in store. I don't see how it can be either included or added on automatically when the Burger King staff make minimum wage.
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Originally Posted by Landing Gear
(Post 14122031)
As is often the case, we agree. ^
Growing up in New York City, I never saw tipping of counter employees in delis, coffee shops, etc. The general rule was that if you had waiter/waitress service, you tipped but if you had carryout or self-service you didn't. Then, Starbucks arrived along with the tip jar. My solution is to always pay by card and in that way, I have no loose change. In fact, SBUX actually encourages this non-cash transaction by the use of their "rewards cards." This "tip jar" mentality has gone so overboard that I know a car wash that has tip boxes at the start, at the end, and to put the icing on the cake, at the cashier! "Yes, Miss, you did such a good job of taking my money, here's a dollar for you." +1 |
Originally Posted by jologolf
(Post 17263333)
For me, I go to the same Starbucks every weekday. It's always the same drink, Grande Pike. First few weeks I repeated my order daily. No tip.
After a few weeks they started putting my drink up as i was ready to pay. Every time my drink is ready before i ask for it = 77 cent tip. |
I avoid buying coffee at places where the employees give me a funny look when I request a regular size cup with normal drip coffee.
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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 17017631)
I tip at Starbucks only if the person who takes my order is unusually friendly or attentive. However, I do tip at my local doughnut store (SC Doughnuts in San Clemente, CA -- the BEST doughnuts!). It's family run, the whole family knows me by name and makes a point of welcoming me when I come in (I'm not the only customer for whom they do this). They know my order and prepare my latte and cinnamon roll without my having to ask, and we'll even do so while they help another customer (not a regular) who came in before me.
I'm going to try SC donuts , excluding the tip. |
I can't remember the last time I've tipped at a Starbucks. I don't think it is necessary. From my small sample of co-workers I've noticed none of them tip either.
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Would NEVER tip at a starbucks..ridiculous.
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If you don't tip at McDonald's, Burger King, Subway, Taco Bell, etc. (not that I go to these places any more than absolutely necessary - airports, when nothing else is close by and am starving), why would anyone tip at Starbucks, (or Dunkin Donuts, for that matter?) Absolutely ridiculous!!!
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I tipped at a counter service BBQ restaurant today. However, I love their food and they're a local place and I really want them to stay around.
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I tip at starbucks, but only if I am going to camp out for a while. The alternate method, buying additional drinks every time my current one hits empty, makes me a bit jumpy for the rest of the day.
When I studied for the bar exam, coffee shops were my favorite places to work, since they contain built-in distractions. Preparing with all of that going on makes taking the test in a large, silent room incredibly easy. No employee is going to kick you out after a couple of hours if you've dropped $10 in their tip jar. |
Originally Posted by marklyon
(Post 17533257)
I tip at starbucks, but only if I am going to camp out for a while. The alternate method, buying additional drinks every time my current one hits empty, makes me a bit jumpy for the rest of the day.
When I studied for the bar exam, coffee shops were my favorite places to work, since they contain built-in distractions. Preparing with all of that going on makes taking the test in a large, silent room incredibly easy. No employee is going to kick you out after a couple of hours if you've dropped $10 in their tip jar. Haven't had the pleasure of ever being kicked out of a coffee shop.. usually I may sit in there for over an hour using free wifi to do some work.. |
As the saying goes, a fool and their money...
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