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Originally Posted by mecabq
(Post 13965426)
I assume that by "vertical," slawecki means a tasting of multiple ages or vintages for a single brand. For example, at Taylor Flagdate, you can taste the 40-, 30-, 20-, and 10-year tawnys in succession. This, of course, accentuates the differences due to the age since the formula is the same otherwise. You could also do this by tasting a series of vintages, which would be even better if you could pick out the especially memorable ones.
I assume that "single" means tasting a number of brands that are the same age or vintage, for example tasting the 1977 vintage of a number of different producers at the same time to understand the differences in brand. |
My favorite Ports are the largely unknown dry or extra dry whites. Contrary to all the other types, dry whites are not dessert wines; they are to be enjoyed cold, before a meal, with an appetizer (specially seafood appetizers), or any time you would have a cocktail.
It's a pity that they are so hard to find outside Portugal. |
vertical tasting from a single grower: say all dow, or all taylor, or all fonseca from as many as possible of: 70,77,80,82,83,85,87,91,92,94, and then maybe an '05 just to see what an unaged is like. if lucky, one can find half a dozen or so of the old ones.
horizontal tasting: as many houses as possible of a given declared vintage. did a lot of 70's and 77's. somewhere around '95-'00, vintage port fell into disfavor, as did the british pound, and the british economy. port got real cheap, and a lot of 70 & 77 came on the market. i bought 2 cases of '77. still have about 4 bottles left. |
Originally Posted by violist
(Post 13963063)
These experiences are not hard - nor, compared to the costs of other religious
experiences, expensive to duplicate. You should go out and enjoy yourselves. You can get a respectable Port for 20-30 USD a bottle, and you only need to drink a couple ounces; it keeps pretty well. I don't know how much tamari almond chocolate costs, but it's likely under 5. As my colleague here says, life is good. And I add, if you make it so. |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 13956483)
Apart from classic Stilton, what would the FT Port afficionados recommend as savoury bites with this noble drink?
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Originally Posted by number_6
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 13956483)
Apart from classic Stilton, what would the FT Port afficionados recommend as savoury bites with this noble drink?
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Originally Posted by Baritone73
(Post 13975541)
Duck and venison? I wouldn't have thought of that. Would you advocate drinking port as a "normal" wine with dinner, or are you thinking of small sips with small plates, like duck- or venison-based appetizers?
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Originally Posted by ScarletHarlot
(Post 13957412)
I struggle a bit with the bigger port houses because they are not Portuguese owned. They're often multinational conglomerates or British owned. Calem was Portuguese-owned until recently but I think they sold out. Quinta de la Rosa is a family-owned quinta up the Douro. I like to buy their port (and wine) when I can, but usually I have to ask for it to be special ordered in. Fortunately my local grocery store can do that. But as far as I know, Calem is Portuguese owned at the moment, by a company called Sogevino or something like that. And Sandeman is back to Portuguese hands after the Sogrape Group - known for Mateus Rose - bought it from Seagram's. |
Does anyone know the Bishop of Norwich?
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I've always thought it would be fun to go to Portugal and visit some port wineries and try a wide variety of ports.
In your educated opinions, where would be a good starting place to plan such a trip? Where in Portugal, which wineries, etc.? Many thanks for your help. |
Originally Posted by CousinNick
(Post 14017950)
I've always thought it would be fun to go to Portugal and visit some port wineries and try a wide variety of ports.
In your educated opinions, where would be a good starting place to plan such a trip? Where in Portugal, which wineries, etc.? Many thanks for your help. Port is still secretive and not readily accessible to the public unless you are "in the club". |
Originally Posted by number_6
(Post 14018000)
You are presuming that wineries exist and welcome visitors :) It is a lot different from US wine operations, and your best bet is something like the following (at a cost of up to EUR 1000 for the day tour): http://www.cellartours.com/portugal/...xury-port.html
Port is still secretive and not readily accessible to the public unless you are "in the club". I've been to Quinta Nova once during harvest time in 2006, and I went to "work" in the field for a couple of hours, accompanied by the managers of the winery. After that, we ate lunch at the Manor House (also a hotel) and visited the wine-making facilities and the cellars. Great stuff. I was at the Douro Valley again last year and the hotel concierge (Aqua Pura) told me that it was a growing business for the region and suggested a tour at Sandeman and at Ramos Pinto, but we chose to go to a couple of wineries close by. |
Originally Posted by TimF1975
(Post 13991036)
Does anyone know the Bishop of Norwich?
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I love a glass of port when the temperatures drop and the sky starts to spit sleet and snow. Hopefully that takes place on a Saturday night and I can curl up with a good book in front of the fireplace. I don't have any favorite brands, so I guess you could say I favor any port in a storm. :p
Back in the 70's, Frank Zappa had a non-hit with a song titled "WPLJ" for White Port and Lemon Juice. I tried it, but Frank, it was not a good mix. :td: |
I like Cockburns and Taylors but prefer ruby over tawny. I did try a port in Australia that was like a toffee colour and tasted amazing!
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