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for champagne:
Champagne grapes. almost all are chard, , pinot noir, and pinot meunier. most champagnes are majority pinot meunier. it is cheaper and easier to grow, and 20+% of the cost of champagne is advertising. gotta cut costs somewhere.

most rose is simply made from a batch of red pinot noir mixed into white wine.

"Due to the comparatively high risk and cost of using the saigneé or 'skin contact only' technique, there are very few producers who habitually do not add any additional red wine. These include Laurent Perrier, Louis Roederer, and Guy Charbaut." wiki

it is not as difficult as one might imagine to make white wine from the red grapes. champagne country is way north of most every red wine country, and the growers do not want more than 9% alcohol. so, they pick the red grapes when pretty green. chuck in a bit of sugar, and sure enough 11-12% wine.

for an excellent reference to champagne:

http://www.skurnikwines.com/msw/docu...pagnefinal.pdf

for probably the best champagne available:

http://www.skurnikwines.com/msw/docu...pagnefinal.pdf

a few years back, thiery thiese imports changed distributors in the dc-md area. the old warehouse must get rid of the wines in stock in short order. i bought 25 cases of the most mixed wines i have ever purchased. the old distributor just threw everything that was less than case lot or loose bottle into boxes and sold it to me for one money. did about 250 bottles of every shape and color of garagista champagne.

Domaine Serene will do one every so often. It's quite interesting, I recommend tasting it as it adds perspective to your palate. Just another expression of a grape being made into wine. You may like it or you may hate it but it's got characteristics worth experiencing.

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Originally Posted by slawecki (Post 13640482)

from a reply on chow hound:

Let's see. There's Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. Then there are Pinot Blanc and Pinot Beurot (Pinot Gris) which were grandfathered in if you already had them planted when the rules were changed. Then there's the rare white clone of Pinot Noir that Gouge has. That may not count as a separate grape, actually. Then there's Sauvignon de Saint Bris near Chablis. Are we considering Beaujolais part of Burgundy today? How many points out of 100 do I get for my answer?

these are white grapes, that can and are made into white burgundy and called white burgundy.

i could not remember earlier, but the wine i acquired was a verget ladoix. in his review, piere roggavani pointed out that it was 25 or 50% white pinot noir

I give you 100 out of 100, especially because you a) got all that strangeness that the Burgundians have created right, b) called Pierre Rovani, whose Burgundy reviews and vintage ratings were utter gibberish, roggavani, and c) in a later post talked about Skurnik's portfolio in such a knowledgeable way (love that Peters!).

I know people over at Skurnik, they love that their stuff is being quoted elsewhere.