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-   -   Delta Q&A Meeting with Execs - NOTES (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-skymiles-pre-worldperks-merger/969558-delta-q-meeting-execs-notes.html)

MikeMpls Jul 15, 2009 1:10 pm
Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 12070822)
Just to take one example, the safety cards need to be replaced. NW and DL had different emergency procedures. When opening over-wing doors on MD88's, the DL procedure is to put the door on the seat. On the D90's, the NW procedure is to toss it out the window. I'm not saying either method is better- both have their advantages and drawbacks. But the former NW FA's are currently going through training to learn the DL methods, and these things have to be unified and made consistent. They can't train the FA's to do one thing and have the safety cards show something else, so the cards have to be replaced in the current time frame...
My recollection from the pretend-737's in RWT is that we were told to put the door on the seat; if indeed they do chuck it on the MD-90's they certainly are capable learning both ways. :D Ultimately all FA's should be qualified for all types.

Gargoyle Jul 15, 2009 1:15 pm
Originally Posted by MikeMpls (Post 12071263)
My recollection from the pretend-737's in RWT is that we were told to put the door on the seat; if indeed they do chuck it on the MD-90's they certainly are capable learning both ways. :D Ultimately all FA's should be qualified for all types.
DL is door-on-the-seat for both. NW is chuck-it-out-the-window.

Both methods have advantages and disadvantages, but it's best to standardize on one method, and reflect that method in both training and printed materials.

DiverDave Jul 15, 2009 1:32 pm
Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 12071294)
DL is door-on-the-seat for both. NW is chuck-it-out-the-window.

Both methods have advantages and disadvantages, but it's best to standardize on one method, and reflect that method in both training and printed materials.
Is there perhaps something different in the exit row seating or spacing between the MDs and the DC-9s that would explain the difference?

David

WBurcham Jul 15, 2009 1:44 pm
Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 12071294)
DL is door-on-the-seat for both. NW is chuck-it-out-the-window.

Both methods have advantages and disadvantages, but it's best to standardize on one method, and reflect that method in both training and printed materials.
I think that the consensus was that, in the event of an emergency, it all came down to what was most justifiable at the time. DL FA's are trained to keep the window on the seat but could end up chucking it if that made more sense.

I specifically mentioned that I'd just throw it out the window because there would be little chance of blocking the pax egress that way.

Gargoyle Jul 15, 2009 1:49 pm
Originally Posted by WBurcham (Post 12071472)
I specifically mentioned that I'd just throw it out the window because there would be little chance of blocking the pax egress that way.
Just make sure it won't trip people out on the wing, or slide off and hit the emergency responders. And if it stays inside, make sure it doesn't block the pax. Neither one is a very good option, and IIRC some of the newer MD-90s's have it slide upwards on hydraulics?

bwhite Jul 15, 2009 4:30 pm
Thanks to those who were able to attend for passing along the notes. It is one thing to read speculation and concepts from various sources but another to see it consolidated in this thread. I would have liked to have gone, but could not (due to travel).

I am impressed with the effort and energy that DL put into the event. That itself says a lot.

Thanks.

sxf24 Jul 15, 2009 8:09 pm
Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 12071497)
Just make sure it won't trip people out on the wing, or slide off and hit the emergency responders. And if it stays inside, make sure it doesn't block the pax. Neither one is a very good option, and IIRC some of the newer MD-90s's have it slide upwards on hydraulics?
To my knowledge, all MD-90s have plug doors that must manually be opened/removed.

Gargoyle Jul 15, 2009 9:07 pm
Originally Posted by sxf24 (Post 12073328)
To my knowledge, all MD-90s have plug doors that must manually be opened/removed.
My bad. I can't recall what plane this was. Can anyone else remember?

http://stonecarver.com/flyertalk/plane_door.jpg

zman Jul 15, 2009 9:36 pm
Originally Posted by avidflyer (Post 11983358)
So if we hit the number (whatever that is) say, in August we will have to wait until Mar 1 2010? I kind of figured that anyway as it is new but was hoping they would treat it like they do for existing tiers; awarded immediately AND good for the next year.
Assuming they can program the computers correctly by then

atldlff Jul 15, 2009 9:44 pm
Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 12073569)
My bad. I can't recall what plane this was. Can anyone else remember?

http://stonecarver.com/flyertalk/plane_door.jpg
737-800/900 series if I recall correctly. Wish that was the design on all of the planes.

WBurcham Jul 15, 2009 9:52 pm
Originally Posted by atldlff (Post 12073706)
737-800/900 series if I recall correctly. Wish that was the design on all of the planes.
Yep, 737-800/700/900 trainer that Gargoyle was very helpful in resetting.


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