Upgrade Methodology
Jun 16, 2009, 7:28 am
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Upgrade Methodology
So my business partner and I are both PMs and bought T class tix to EWR from ATL at the same time. I am #1 on the upgrade list and he is #2. However, year to date, he has 60,000 MQM, I only have 50,000 MQM. His trailing 12-month MQM is higher than mine. He is also sitting on more skymiles in his account than I (if this is a factor). Why the heck am I ahead of him on the waitlist? I'm not complaining...just trying to learn the system. Thanks.
Jun 16, 2009, 7:33 am
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As per Delta's explanation of this in the complimentary upgrade section of the website. " if medallion level and fair class are the same then time of ticketing is the tie breaker".
Jun 16, 2009, 7:45 am
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Thanks for pointing that out.
Jun 16, 2009, 11:07 am
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That's a common misconception. Accrued YTD mileage and how many miles you're "sitting" on play no part in the upgrade game. Only fare class, your status, and ToT.
Jun 16, 2009, 12:51 pm
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Jun 16, 2009, 1:26 pm
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I hope you at least try to make it up to him by bringing him a cocktail or bag of chips to his seat in cattle class. Hehe.
Jun 16, 2009, 4:14 pm
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Interesting that the OP should have thought that current mileage accumulation was not unlikely to be a factor in the upgrade process on DL.
For years, "how much has he flown with us lately" was a determinant used by America West when upgrades were being allocated. Prior to the merger with US, I had never heard of that type of method being used by any airline.
However, in my last days as a US CP, it was mentioned on FT that the HP guys were absolutely committed to putting that into the US procedures. I do not know if that actually did happen, but I might guess that the OP may originally be from out west somewhere and at one time possibly was a steady customer of HP before the takeover of US.
For years, "how much has he flown with us lately" was a determinant used by America West when upgrades were being allocated. Prior to the merger with US, I had never heard of that type of method being used by any airline.
However, in my last days as a US CP, it was mentioned on FT that the HP guys were absolutely committed to putting that into the US procedures. I do not know if that actually did happen, but I might guess that the OP may originally be from out west somewhere and at one time possibly was a steady customer of HP before the takeover of US.
Jun 16, 2009, 4:33 pm
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Jun 16, 2009, 4:34 pm
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Interesting that the OP should have thought that current mileage accumulation was not unlikely to be a factor in the upgrade process on DL.
For years, "how much has he flown with us lately" was a determinant used by America West when upgrades were being allocated. Prior to the merger with US, I had never heard of that type of method being used by any airline.
However, in my last days as a US CP, it was mentioned on FT that the HP guys were absolutely committed to putting that into the US procedures. I do not know if that actually did happen, but I might guess that the OP may originally be from out west somewhere and at one time possibly was a steady customer of HP before the takeover of US.
For years, "how much has he flown with us lately" was a determinant used by America West when upgrades were being allocated. Prior to the merger with US, I had never heard of that type of method being used by any airline.
However, in my last days as a US CP, it was mentioned on FT that the HP guys were absolutely committed to putting that into the US procedures. I do not know if that actually did happen, but I might guess that the OP may originally be from out west somewhere and at one time possibly was a steady customer of HP before the takeover of US.
Jun 16, 2009, 4:38 pm
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Jun 16, 2009, 7:27 pm
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Jun 17, 2009, 2:48 am
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In the past, I've lost out on upgrades by reason of YTD MQM. Maybe that changed recently, but I thought it was a criterion in the not-too-distant past.
Jun 17, 2009, 6:32 am
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Not for complimentary domestic upgrades. I think it can come into account for op-ups and the such. As long as we've been maintaining a list here MQMs has never been a factor.
Also MM is no factor either.
Also MM is no factor either.
Jun 17, 2009, 8:06 am
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