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Austrailia and Vietnam possibly in Delta's future.

 
Old Jul 9, 08, 7:52 pm
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Austrailia and Vietnam possibly in Delta's future.

In a chat with employees today, Glen Hauenstein talked about possible service to Sydney by 2010 and also service to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

Not a lot of details at the moment, but there should be in days to come.

In the time being, what are your thoughts on a possible ATL-SYD flight?
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Old Jul 9, 08, 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by pjpoker View Post
In the time being, what are your thoughts on a possible ATL-SYD flight?
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Old Jul 9, 08, 8:06 pm
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You guys saw the WSJ article on the economics of ultra-long haul flight, right? The costs of burning a lot of fuel to carry a lot of fuel for 15 hour non-stop flight?

If SYD gets on the schedule, here's a prediction it will be operated from LAX, not ATL. A route to Vietnam would almost surely operate from the West Coast.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme View Post
You guys saw the WSJ article on the economics of ultra-long haul flight, right? The costs of burning a lot of fuel to carry a lot of fuel for 15 hour non-stop flight?

If SYD gets on the schedule, here's a prediction it will be operated from LAX, not ATL. A route to Vietnam would almost surely operate from the West Coast.
How about operating out of SLC? More domestic connection opportunities there with downsizing of LAX-- not to mention the CDG flight has been successful. Also, consider SEA or another NW stronghold.

Just ideas...
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Old Jul 9, 08, 8:15 pm
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I would ABSOLUTELY love a LAX-SYD route.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 8:19 pm
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Originally Posted by fabulousflygirl View Post
I would ABSOLUTELY love a LAX-SYD route.
Living in SAN, this would be awesome! But I can imagine absolutely ZERO skysaver awards tickets though.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 8:42 pm
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Wouldn't be shocked if a SEA-SYD flight comes on - NW has been doing a pretty decent buildup at SEA over the past few years - additional NRT frequency, new flights to LHR and BJS, AF has come in with CDG service, and of course AS feed there.

Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by mersk862 View Post
Wouldn't be shocked if a SEA-SYD flight comes on - NW has been doing a pretty decent buildup at SEA over the past few years - additional NRT frequency, new flights to LHR and BJS, AF has come in with CDG service, and of course AS feed there.

Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
I think SEA - SYD is a good possibility as well...
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Old Jul 9, 08, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Denolloyd View Post
I think SEA - SYD is a good possibility as well...
No, it will be provided service from SLC or LAX-SYD instead of ATL-SYD nonstop. It will be very tough competitive with QF, UA & V Australia out of LAX. I think it should be done extremely very well by 2010 for which specific routes will be taken in between JFK or ATL-SYD nonstop.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mersk862 View Post
Wouldn't be shocked if a SEA-SYD flight comes on - NW has been doing a pretty decent buildup at SEA over the past few years - additional NRT frequency, new flights to LHR and BJS, AF has come in with CDG service, and of course AS feed there.

Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
I share the feeling. My gut hasbeen that, since the merger was announced, any new TPAC flights would be ex-SEA.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 9:44 pm
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I believe that the current USA-Vietnam bilateral restricts access to a single US carrier - UA.

Of course, if UA goes out of business...
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Old Jul 9, 08, 9:53 pm
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I don't think SLC-SYD is feasible unless you can tack another 3000 feet to one of our runways. Oh, and triple the population of the valley here.

I could definitely see either LAX-SYD or SEA-SYD though. SEA seems to be turning into quite the focus city for NW, and I can only see it growing from here.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 10:07 pm
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The routing of the LAX-SYD flight is just south of Hawaii. On my last nonstop from LAX the plane flew about 25 miles south of the Big Island. If DL could get the route authority, it could do HNL-SYD service with a 767-300 until it had longer range aircraft for a nonstop from the mainland. Until last year Air Canada used the 767-300 to fly Vancouver-HNL-SYD. When they got the new 777s, AC discontinued the HNL-SYD flight, and now fly nonstop from the mainland.

SYD is a big gap in Skyteam from the US. Korea is an option, but that is real round about.
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Old Jul 9, 08, 10:32 pm
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I was on the chat today and Hauenstein did indeed say SYD and Vietnam...

I can guarantee that these routes will be from ATL either using the 772LR, 744, or the new 787 (if the deliveries do indeed come through).

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Old Jul 9, 08, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by DLBeno View Post
I was on the chat today and Hauenstein did indeed say SYD and Vietnam...

I can guarantee that these routes will be from ATL either using the 772LR, 744, or the new 787 (if the deliveries do indeed come through).

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