Austrailia and Vietnam possibly in Delta's future.
Jul 9, 2008, 6:52 pm
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Austrailia and Vietnam possibly in Delta's future.
In a chat with employees today, Glen Hauenstein talked about possible service to Sydney by 2010 and also service to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
Not a lot of details at the moment, but there should be in days to come.
In the time being, what are your thoughts on a possible ATL-SYD flight?
Not a lot of details at the moment, but there should be in days to come.
In the time being, what are your thoughts on a possible ATL-SYD flight?
Jul 9, 2008, 6:54 pm
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Jul 9, 2008, 7:06 pm
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You guys saw the WSJ article on the economics of ultra-long haul flight, right? The costs of burning a lot of fuel to carry a lot of fuel for 15 hour non-stop flight?
If SYD gets on the schedule, here's a prediction it will be operated from LAX, not ATL. A route to Vietnam would almost surely operate from the West Coast.
If SYD gets on the schedule, here's a prediction it will be operated from LAX, not ATL. A route to Vietnam would almost surely operate from the West Coast.
Jul 9, 2008, 7:15 pm
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You guys saw the WSJ article on the economics of ultra-long haul flight, right? The costs of burning a lot of fuel to carry a lot of fuel for 15 hour non-stop flight?
If SYD gets on the schedule, here's a prediction it will be operated from LAX, not ATL. A route to Vietnam would almost surely operate from the West Coast.
If SYD gets on the schedule, here's a prediction it will be operated from LAX, not ATL. A route to Vietnam would almost surely operate from the West Coast.
Just ideas...
Jul 9, 2008, 7:15 pm
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I would ABSOLUTELY love a LAX-SYD route.
Jul 9, 2008, 7:19 pm
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Jul 9, 2008, 7:42 pm
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Wouldn't be shocked if a SEA-SYD flight comes on - NW has been doing a pretty decent buildup at SEA over the past few years - additional NRT frequency, new flights to LHR and BJS, AF has come in with CDG service, and of course AS feed there.
Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
Jul 9, 2008, 8:18 pm
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Wouldn't be shocked if a SEA-SYD flight comes on - NW has been doing a pretty decent buildup at SEA over the past few years - additional NRT frequency, new flights to LHR and BJS, AF has come in with CDG service, and of course AS feed there.
Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
Jul 9, 2008, 8:23 pm
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No, it will be provided service from SLC or LAX-SYD instead of ATL-SYD nonstop. It will be very tough competitive with QF, UA & V Australia out of LAX. I think it should be done extremely very well by 2010 for which specific routes will be taken in between JFK or ATL-SYD nonstop.
Jul 9, 2008, 8:29 pm
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Wouldn't be shocked if a SEA-SYD flight comes on - NW has been doing a pretty decent buildup at SEA over the past few years - additional NRT frequency, new flights to LHR and BJS, AF has come in with CDG service, and of course AS feed there.
Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
Of course, O&D (which is higher yield) is going to be much better ex-LAX.
Jul 9, 2008, 8:44 pm
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I believe that the current USA-Vietnam bilateral restricts access to a single US carrier - UA.
Of course, if UA goes out of business...
Of course, if UA goes out of business...
Jul 9, 2008, 8:53 pm
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I don't think SLC-SYD is feasible unless you can tack another 3000 feet to one of our runways. Oh, and triple the population of the valley here.
I could definitely see either LAX-SYD or SEA-SYD though. SEA seems to be turning into quite the focus city for NW, and I can only see it growing from here.
I could definitely see either LAX-SYD or SEA-SYD though. SEA seems to be turning into quite the focus city for NW, and I can only see it growing from here.
Jul 9, 2008, 9:07 pm
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The routing of the LAX-SYD flight is just south of Hawaii. On my last nonstop from LAX the plane flew about 25 miles south of the Big Island. If DL could get the route authority, it could do HNL-SYD service with a 767-300 until it had longer range aircraft for a nonstop from the mainland. Until last year Air Canada used the 767-300 to fly Vancouver-HNL-SYD. When they got the new 777s, AC discontinued the HNL-SYD flight, and now fly nonstop from the mainland.
SYD is a big gap in Skyteam from the US. Korea is an option, but that is real round about.
SYD is a big gap in Skyteam from the US. Korea is an option, but that is real round about.
Jul 9, 2008, 9:32 pm
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I was on the chat today and Hauenstein did indeed say SYD and Vietnam...
I can guarantee that these routes will be from ATL either using the 772LR, 744, or the new 787 (if the deliveries do indeed come through).
-b-
I can guarantee that these routes will be from ATL either using the 772LR, 744, or the new 787 (if the deliveries do indeed come through).
-b-
Jul 9, 2008, 9:37 pm
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