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El Boocho Jul 15, 2007 7:15 am

deleted. already discussed

El Boocho Jul 15, 2007 7:22 am


Originally Posted by mikey1003 (Post 8056012)
If they count segments:)


Originally Posted by mikey1003 (Post 8057931)
No, my major gripe was always segments ( and Old Miles..but that was after I quit DL)

$$$$ has always been a fact of life at CVG. I have been flying out of DAY for many years because of CVG extortion. (A few trips from IND, CMH and whatever the Hell Louisville is called)

I told Robby Boy Borden, no segments and I would take my business elsewhere. That went back to the Save SkyMiles days

To answer your question about all in... I am happy with NW now. They would have to screw up and DL would have to count segments for me to go back. (PM on NW is 100 segments)

One thing I could never figure out was how you have so many NW BIS miles. You have been flying them for what, maybe 4 years? That works out to more than 300K per year. If you are doing that kind of travel, who cares if they count segments? Does your counter include all miles or just status miles?

mikey1003 Jul 15, 2007 7:48 am


Originally Posted by El Boocho (Post 8059022)
One thing I could never figure out was how you have so many NW BIS miles. You have been flying them for what, maybe 4 years? That works out to more than 300K per year. If you are doing that kind of travel, who cares if they count segments? Does your counter include all miles or just status miles?

No, when I started flying, I flew Republic...then NW bought them...Flew them for many years. My territory was changed, so I switched to DL. That's why so many NW miles..And, those are total miles , not BIS. NW does not have a MM program like DL.

jfulcher Jul 15, 2007 8:16 am


Originally Posted by mikey1003 (Post 8055917)
This is an excellent reason why none of us should ever be married to any given airline.

I fought long and hard over SaveSkymiles.com I took it personal, then realized that an airline is just a way to get from point A to point B.

No matter what anyone says in any of the airline forums at FT...They are all as good or bad as the rest. And, one thing for sure, they will ALL make changes for the worse...Not Better!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I moved on to NW. If they screw up, I'll find something else.

Lehava's problem, is that unless she moves, she doesn't have any good options.


I would drive to SYR before I flew GhettoWest. That's just me.

USCGamecock Jul 15, 2007 8:32 am

Didn't DL only have 1 NS flt. to/from ATL and 2 to/from JFK from BGM?? Seems tough to match up these few flights for a lot of travel.

El Boocho Jul 15, 2007 8:44 am


Originally Posted by mikey1003 (Post 8059105)
No, when I started flying, I flew Republic...then NW bought them...Flew them for many years. My territory was changed, so I switched to DL. That's why so many NW miles..And, those are total miles , not BIS. NW does not have a MM program like DL.

Now the world makes sense again. :)

mtparadis Jul 15, 2007 10:26 am


Originally Posted by mikey1003 (Post 8057931)
whatever the Hell Louisville is called

The former Standiford Field = SDF


Originally Posted by USCGamecock (Post 8059236)
Didn't DL only have 1 NS flt. to/from ATL and 2 to/from JFK from BNG?? Seems tough to match up these few flights for a lot of travel.

Banning, CA doesn't have service from JFK or ATL. I believe you mean BGM. :p

jpmcdonough Jul 15, 2007 10:39 am

Lehava

So sorry to hear that dear old Link field is losing a primary tenant. I used to go to BGM from DFW back in the 80's, and I got to spend some nights in Pittsburgh and some in Flushing (there was commuter service to LGA) but it was always fun to get there and have a spoedie.

One problem, as I recall, is that the airport is sort of on top of a mountain. This makes the weather highly unpredictable, to say the least.

Lehava Jul 15, 2007 11:08 am


Originally Posted by USCGamecock (Post 8059236)
Didn't DL only have 1 NS flt. to/from ATL and 2 to/from JFK from BNG?? Seems tough to match up these few flights for a lot of travel.

That is the current schedule but you need to know the history here:

since Delta came to BGM until June 8, 2006...BGM-CVG - varied between 2 and three flights a day (this is what we lovingly refer to at BGM now as "the good old days"). These flights were comair, the staffing was great and they had a VERY high on time reliability. I could count on getting in early in both directions.

June 8,2006 (The day the widget started to die at BGM) until May 2007 - 2 flights a day BGM-ATL and back. Loads really good on these flights, reliability bad but improving, a ton of cancellations in the first few months which really turned people off (this was during the runway closed at ATL days).

May 2007-Present JFK added, 2 flights a day, one ATL retained. Horrible reliability on the JFK, they brought in props for it in early June. It runs HOURS behind usually. The ATL has suffered also because what they have done is run an ATL-BGM-JFK route as the inbound, and if JFK is holding they usually delay it in ATL not here.

Lehava Jul 15, 2007 11:16 am


Originally Posted by jpmcdonough (Post 8059746)
Lehava

So sorry to hear that dear old Link field is losing a primary tenant. I used to go to BGM from DFW back in the 80's, and I got to spend some nights in Pittsburgh and some in Flushing (there was commuter service to LGA) but it was always fun to get there and have a spoedie.

One problem, as I recall, is that the airport is sort of on top of a mountain. This makes the weather highly unpredictable, to say the least.

Yes we sit on the top of Mt Ettrick, but I can say the weather at the airport really isnt an issue. I have only once in all the years I have been flying out of here had an inbound diverted for the weather, and normally cancellations are about the other airport not BGM. Our grounds folks do a PHENOM job keeping our little airport open.

Here is a great piece on BGM's history for anyone interested http://www.binghamtonairport.com/avi...ionHistory.php

Oh and Spiedie fest is coming up in a couple weeks, fly in on DL while you still can *smile* http://www.spiediefest.com/

And if you dont know what a spiedie is you are missing out big time *smile*

Lehava Jul 15, 2007 11:22 am

Too Little too late, but it looks like our senators are trying to cover their butts on this http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pb...707150333/1006

Hillary is here on Tuesday, cant wait to hear her spin this one. Had our economic issues been dealt with in the past by our leadership this wouldnt be going on.

While I would LOVE to see the service saved, it will only be for however long and then we will be right back here...........

jpmcdonough Jul 15, 2007 11:54 am


Originally Posted by Lehava (Post 8059930)
Yes we sit on the top of Mt Ettrick, but I can say the weather at the airport really isnt an issue. I have only once in all the years I have been flying out of here had an inbound diverted for the weather, and normally cancellations are about the other airport not BGM. Our grounds folks do a PHENOM job keeping our little airport open.

Here is a great piece on BGM's history for anyone interested http://www.binghamtonairport.com/avi...ionHistory.php

Oh and Spiedie fest is coming up in a couple weeks, fly in on DL while you still can *smile* http://www.spiediefest.com/

And if you dont know what a spiedie is you are missing out big time *smile*

I used to love those things, but noplace other than BGM seems to have them. Oh, well, at least we have Tex-Mex!

Wexflyer Jul 15, 2007 1:25 pm

To the OP: It is an absolutely fundamental error to "love" a commercial airline. They are not in the game for love...

Kiwi Flyer Jul 15, 2007 7:02 pm

About the only thing that is certain is that things will change.

Lehava - I realise it isn't much consolation, but at least you have other airlines serving BGM. There are plenty of places with only a single airline.

RobertS975 Jul 15, 2007 8:14 pm

Anyone remember Mohawk Airlines back in the 60s? Binghampton, Ithaca, Elmira, Glens Falls, Jamestown, Oneonta, Watertown, Massena, and Plattsburgh in addition to SYR, UCA, ROC, BUF, ALB. They REALLY had upstate covered!

Their HQ was Utica, I believe. That would make a great trivia question: What city was once the HQ for an airline but currently has no air service at all?

Edited to add: Just recalled Empire Airlines... I believe they also had a HQ at UCA before shifting most of their activity to SYR. So that would make UCA the former HQ for two jet airlines... now zilch!


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