Flights changed from First to Business Elite
Jun 2, 2007, 1:30 pm
#1
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Flights changed from First to Business Elite
I have two upcoming award itineraries booked in first. One from JFK to SFO and a second from JFK to LAS. Both itins had the flight numbers changed. Everything else was the same (equipment, flight times) but the class is now Business elite. Of course, I had to call to get the seat assignments back. Does anyone know the point of this? Is it a marketing issue?
Jun 2, 2007, 1:32 pm
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I have two upcoming award itineraries booked in first. One from JFK to SFO and a second from JFK to LAS. Both itins had the flight numbers changed. Everything else was the same (equipment, flight times) but the class is now Business elite. Of course, I had to call to get the seat assignments back. Does anyone know the point of this? Is it a marketing issue?
There is no difference in your flight/seats.
Jun 2, 2007, 2:02 pm
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Thanks. That's what I thought at first, but if you check all the direct flights on a given date in september from JFK to SFO or JFK to LAS or JFK to LAX and all return flights, they all come up as Business class; whereas before they were all first. By the way, although I thought domestic Business was not Business Elite, the Itin emailed to me shows Business elite for some reason.
Jun 2, 2007, 2:55 pm
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If it's a 757, then it's the same old seats as domestic F although you may score with ex-Song video in every seat.
Jun 2, 2007, 7:02 pm
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It's the mysterious phantom BE Transcon product. All pax in front sign a non disclosure agreement- don't want anyone knowing they had real glasses and silverware 
I'm bummed- have moved most of my travel for the rest of the year from NW to DL- now I see in the NW forum new improved meals in domestic F and Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream-
I'm bummed- have moved most of my travel for the rest of the year from NW to DL- now I see in the NW forum new improved meals in domestic F and Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream-
Jun 2, 2007, 8:02 pm
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Thanks. That's what I thought at first, but if you check all the direct flights on a given date in september from JFK to SFO or JFK to LAS or JFK to LAX and all return flights, they all come up as Business class; whereas before they were all first. By the way, although I thought domestic Business was not Business Elite, the Itin emailed to me shows Business elite for some reason.
When are you going/what does the seat map look like? The press release says these re-fitted 757-200s' will have 16 seats in BE and 158 seats in economy.
That'd make it 4 rows of 2 x 2.
Jun 2, 2007, 8:31 pm
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JFK changes?!?
After seeing this thread, I did some schedule searches and it appears the current set of changes shows ALL JFK domestic transcon routes from DEN west now are labeled as business (at least in August) and have independent flight numbers from 400 thru at least 425 which do not continue international. Wonder why DL made this change? Could we service changes on the JFK transcons or is DL just removing the flight number on time performance history. 
Jun 2, 2007, 9:55 pm
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Interesting- I noticed that for the past several weeks flite 1032 SEA-ATL has shown in FLIFO in SABRE "BETR FLIGHT SEA-ATL"-is added each day after departure. I haven't seen this one an any other flites- was curious if BETR has something to do with Business Elite.
Jun 2, 2007, 10:46 pm
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Hmmm..... That's interesting. I think we'd have heard that though if it was the case. I think it's a little hard to believe though as there really aren't any spare 763's sitting around then.
Jun 3, 2007, 4:37 am
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Well, it's POSSIBLE that the AA 757's with BE config could be doing these turns in their downtime from Europe. Since the first announced 757 isn't doing a 7 day per week TATL run (this is JFK-EDI) maybe they are using them for domestic ops....
When are you going/what does the seat map look like? The press release says these re-fitted 757-200s' will have 16 seats in BE and 158 seats in economy.
That'd make it 4 rows of 2 x 2.
When are you going/what does the seat map look like? The press release says these re-fitted 757-200s' will have 16 seats in BE and 158 seats in economy.
That'd make it 4 rows of 2 x 2.
Jun 3, 2007, 12:31 pm
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Well, it's POSSIBLE that the AA 757's with BE config could be doing these turns in their downtime from Europe. Since the first announced 757 isn't doing a 7 day per week TATL run (this is JFK-EDI) maybe they are using them for domestic ops....
When are you going/what does the seat map look like? The press release says these re-fitted 757-200s' will have 16 seats in BE and 158 seats in economy.
That'd make it 4 rows of 2 x 2.
When are you going/what does the seat map look like? The press release says these re-fitted 757-200s' will have 16 seats in BE and 158 seats in economy.
That'd make it 4 rows of 2 x 2.
Jun 3, 2007, 3:45 pm
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Hopefully the meal disappearing is just a fluke. I'd hate to think DL was changing the domestic F product to "business" ala AirTran. I guess they already have the plastic cups and snack baskets tho. 
