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Old Feb 17, 06, 7:00 am
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A lot of companies are cracking down on their employees flying habits, by paying a pencil-pusher to examine each flight and see if there is something a bit cheaper... then forcing one to fly the cheapest available. They call this 'Having a Process'.

Even if the process sticks you with an unnecessary three-hour layover on the way home and don't see your family. They don't care if you burn out --- you can be replaced with someone more tractible.

I can get an 'executive override' which involves bothering some manager over the weekend. But only if it's to get a fare that gets me into a client site early Monday morning instead of Monday late morning.

The Process: micromanage at the level at which people are productive, and avert eyes at the level at which the top folks are manipulating stock prices by massaging earnings, delaying expense reimbursements and outright lying.

Since the new crackdown, my colleagues and I are actually flying more expensive flights This has involved some fancy footwork to figure out their system, using ITA, and stumping the chumps.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by TTT
Delta fares don't require a Saturday night stay. The T fares only require 3 night stay.
Thanks, was looking at the wrong fare rules.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by PortalGuy
Even if the process sticks you with an unnecessary three-hour layover on the way home and don't see your family. They don't care if you burn out --- you can be replaced with someone more tractible.
Well, this is very short sighted of said company. Turnover cost REAL money. But also goes to what is the value of said employee...both from the employee perspective and the employer perspective.
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So why did I book Delta? Two reasons. The main one is because they offered direct flights at convenient times whereas the others had layovers. When a guy is making $100-200 an hour, it doesn't make economic sense to book a flight that is inconvenient or that has a layover because that ends up being non-productive time. Nor does it make my managers, who devote hundreds of hours of their personal time on an airplane, happy to make them sit and wait in an airport.

The second reason I book Delta is because my managers are all frequent flyers. They have status on Delta because Cincinnati is a Delta hub. Status = privileges and perks. They have a better chance of getting bumped to first class, etc., and the airlines will bend over backwards to make them happy if their flight is bumped, etc. Even though Delta routinely robs us blind, I will usually book through them if possible, because it makes sense to keep the work horses of the company happy.
Now, this is the opposite extreme end of this dea. The percentage of flyers making "$100-200 an hour" are so LOW that Delta would be a fool in factoring that in.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by indufan
The percentage of flyers making "$100-200 an hour" are so LOW that Delta would be a fool in factoring that in.
You haven't hired an attorney recently.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by ecaarch
You haven't hired an attorney recently.
About 99.9% of cases are tried on a local basis with a local attorney.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by indufan
About 99.9% of cases are tried on a local basis with a local attorney.
I was thinking of a corporate attorney type. I wonder what the hourly fee is for the attorneys working on the DL bankruptcy?

The reality is that at some point, "saving" a few dollars actually costs more. This is especially true regarding time and professionals that are billable by the hour.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 11:43 am
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I happen to be in that $100/hour category, but I usually bill about 50-75% of that when I travel.

Luckly my company is far-sighted enough that I get a great deal of latitude on my choice of travel. Even when AirTran services many of the destinations that I travel to on a regular basis.

If travel is part of my job and I start to get micromanaged, I'll be looking elsewhere very quickly
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Old Feb 17, 06, 1:07 pm
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Dovster just started another thread related to this. His claim is that DL is now forgoing domestic and concentrating on international travel. That means exhorbitantly high domestic fares, and they don't care.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by ecaarch
You haven't hired an attorney recently.

Or a consultant.. My company bills me out higher than that range usually..
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Old Feb 17, 06, 4:10 pm
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My rates are in the $100-200/hr, too, but I don't bill my clients for travel time, and I would be very upset if my clients billed me for travel time.

Am I unique?
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Old Feb 17, 06, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by MileJunkie
My rates are in the $100-200/hr, too, but I don't bill my clients for travel time, and I would be very upset if my clients billed me for travel time.

Am I unique?
Not to me. I am not an attorney but I am a consultant. I do not charge my clients for travel domestically, but I can charge an extra day for European travel and 2 days for travel to Asia.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 7:15 pm
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Originally Posted by MileJunkie
My rates are in the $100-200/hr, too, but I don't bill my clients for travel time, and I would be very upset if my clients billed me for travel time.

Am I unique?
Hold on...what some charges and what it actually costs are two entirely different things. The company I work for DOES charge for travel time but it's a flat rate per trip. And yes, it's in the $100-200 range but I don't get nearly that much.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by happydad100
Please, Delta, bring your fares back in-line so I can afford to fly you!
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Last Monday, I was surprized to get a T fare SLC - BOS for the end of March for $218 RT as the day prior it was over $500. Can't see how that fare is making Delta any money at all.
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Old Feb 17, 06, 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by brazzleman
Last Monday, I was surprized to get a T fare SLC - BOS for the end of March for $218 RT as the day prior it was over $500. Can't see how that fare is making Delta any money at all.
There are markets that never see the up side of $200 ever.
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Old Feb 18, 06, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by PortalGuy

Since the new crackdown, my colleagues and I are actually flying more expensive flights This has involved some fancy footwork to figure out their system, using ITA, and stumping the chumps.
Are you saying you doctor up "alternative" itineraries in ITA that cost more than your favorite airline to then justify doing what you want?

But we can all assume you follow all of your firm's other policies and rules? Just the airline ones get gamed?
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