Can a DL CR member use the AZ lounge in FCO when flying CO?
Jul 31, 2005, 6:40 am
#1
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Can a DL CR member use the AZ lounge in FCO when flying CO?
All - I'm flying CO BF from FCO next month, which of course entitles me (but not a guest) to use the AZ lounge there.
However, if I ask to enter as a DL CR member flying CO, wouldn't that technically allow me to bring a guest?
thanks - Jamie Baker
However, if I ask to enter as a DL CR member flying CO, wouldn't that technically allow me to bring a guest?
thanks - Jamie Baker
Jul 31, 2005, 7:33 am
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You have no access to the AZ lounge at all as a CRC member:
Code:
00750-AIRPORT LOUNGES TRANSOCEANIC LOUNGES PAGE 23 01 ------------------------------------------------------- 02 - PASSENGER LOUNGES ARE AVBL TO SELECT DL PSGRS IN INTL 03 CITIES WHERE DELTA DOES NOT OPERATE A LOUNGE. 04 (SEE SPECIFIC CITY TOPIC FOR INFO..IE G*ROME/8) 05 . 06 - PASSENGER MUST HAVE SAME-DAY DELTA TRANSOCEANIC 07 (OR INTERNATIONAL) TRAVEL 08 . 09 - ACCESS/ADMITTANCE IS AS FOLLOWS.. G-12 10 . 11 -------------------------------------------------------; 12 ------------------------------------------------------- 13 ONLY THE FOLLOWING PSGRS HAVE ACCESS TO THESE LOUNGES: 14 - DL BUSINESSELITE PSGR TO BUSINESS CLASS LOUNGE 15 - DL CODESHARE FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS PSGR TO 16 RESPECTIVE FIRST OR BUSINESS CLASS LOUNGE 17 - SKYTEAM ELITEPLUS PSGRS TRVLNG/CONNECTING ON SAME- 18 DAY INTL FLT OPERATED BY ONE OF THE SKYTEAM MBRS 19 . 20 NOTE- FC LOUNGE MAY BE USED WHEN BC LOUNGE NOT PRESENT 21 - CROWN ROOM CLUB MBRSHP NOT VALID TO THESE LOUNGES 22 - LOUNGE ACCESS NOT PERMITTED FOR INVOL UPGRADE 23 -----------------------------REVISED/24FEB04/ATLHGDL/HS
Jul 31, 2005, 7:59 am
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Newbie Question. Does this mean that since I am flying Business Elite FCO-JFK-CVG in Sptember that I have access to the Continental Lounge in FCO? Or other Delta partner lounges?
Originally Posted by rcs85551
You have no access to the AZ lounge at all as a CRC member:
Code:
00750-AIRPORT LOUNGES TRANSOCEANIC LOUNGES PAGE 23 01 ------------------------------------------------------- 02 - PASSENGER LOUNGES ARE AVBL TO SELECT DL PSGRS IN INTL 03 CITIES WHERE DELTA DOES NOT OPERATE A LOUNGE. 04 (SEE SPECIFIC CITY TOPIC FOR INFO..IE G*ROME/8) 05 . 06 - PASSENGER MUST HAVE SAME-DAY DELTA TRANSOCEANIC 07 (OR INTERNATIONAL) TRAVEL 08 . 09 - ACCESS/ADMITTANCE IS AS FOLLOWS.. G-12 10 . 11 -------------------------------------------------------; 12 ------------------------------------------------------- 13 ONLY THE FOLLOWING PSGRS HAVE ACCESS TO THESE LOUNGES: 14 - DL BUSINESSELITE PSGR TO BUSINESS CLASS LOUNGE 15 - DL CODESHARE FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS PSGR TO 16 RESPECTIVE FIRST OR BUSINESS CLASS LOUNGE 17 - SKYTEAM ELITEPLUS PSGRS TRVLNG/CONNECTING ON SAME- 18 DAY INTL FLT OPERATED BY ONE OF THE SKYTEAM MBRS 19 . 20 NOTE- FC LOUNGE MAY BE USED WHEN BC LOUNGE NOT PRESENT 21 - CROWN ROOM CLUB MBRSHP NOT VALID TO THESE LOUNGES 22 - LOUNGE ACCESS NOT PERMITTED FOR INVOL UPGRADE 23 -----------------------------REVISED/24FEB04/ATLHGDL/HS
Jul 31, 2005, 8:24 am
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If you're Skyteam Elite Plus (CO/NW/DL Plat) you should get access:
http://www.skyteam.com/EN/benefits/skyteam_lounges.jsp
>
> SkyTeam Elite Plus* members, regardless of their travel class, also have
> access to most SkyTeam lounges as long as travel is in conjunction with
> a same-day international connection on a SkyTeam operated flight.
> In addition, SkyTeam Elite Plus members are allowed to invite a guest
> to join them in the lounge.
>
http://www.skyteam.com/EN/benefits/skyteam_lounges.jsp
>
> SkyTeam Elite Plus* members, regardless of their travel class, also have
> access to most SkyTeam lounges as long as travel is in conjunction with
> a same-day international connection on a SkyTeam operated flight.
> In addition, SkyTeam Elite Plus members are allowed to invite a guest
> to join them in the lounge.
>
Jul 31, 2005, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by rcs85551
You have no access to the AZ lounge at all as a CRC member:
17 - SKYTEAM ELITEPLUS PSGRS TRVLNG/CONNECTING ON SAME-
18 DAY INTL FLT OPERATED BY ONE OF THE SKYTEAM MBRS
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17 - SKYTEAM ELITEPLUS PSGRS TRVLNG/CONNECTING ON SAME-
18 DAY INTL FLT OPERATED BY ONE OF THE SKYTEAM MBRS
[/CODE]
Of course, this all depends on them processing me this way. I'm traveling Continental BF, so accessing the lounge isn't an issue for me. I'm simply trying to figure how to bring a guest with me.
Thanks, Jamie
Jul 31, 2005, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by gungadin
Newbie Question. Does this mean that since I am flying Business Elite FCO-JFK-CVG in Sptember that I have access to the Continental Lounge in FCO? Or other Delta partner lounges?
Jul 31, 2005, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by jamienbaker
I should have been more clear. I'm Platinum on DL, meaning SkyTeam Elite Plus. So it sounds as if a) yes, I can enter the lounge and b) I can bring a guest.
Of course, this all depends on them processing me this way. I'm traveling Continental BF, so accessing the lounge isn't an issue for me. I'm simply trying to figure how to bring a guest with me.
Of course, this all depends on them processing me this way. I'm traveling Continental BF, so accessing the lounge isn't an issue for me. I'm simply trying to figure how to bring a guest with me.
Aug 1, 2005, 8:51 am
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rcs85551's information is, as always, extremely useful and interesting, and comports with my understanding as well. One note -- I was at FCO a couple of years ago as a DL PM flying intra-Europe in business class on Alitalia. I decided to check our Air France's lounge to see if it was nicer than Alitalia's.
The AF people turned me away, saying I could use Alitalia's lounge. I didn't complain as I could see their point and the lounges were across the hall or very close. However, unless I am misreading the posted instructions re: lounge access, the AF folks were wrong to turn me away, right??
The AF people turned me away, saying I could use Alitalia's lounge. I didn't complain as I could see their point and the lounges were across the hall or very close. However, unless I am misreading the posted instructions re: lounge access, the AF folks were wrong to turn me away, right??
Aug 1, 2005, 9:20 am
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Aug 1, 2005, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by vinnmann
I will likely be hitting PM later this month for the first time. For leisure travels, I usually have Vinnmann Jr, Mrs. Vinnmann, and Vinnmomm-in-law in tow. Vinnmann Jr is almost 4 now. I thought I read somewhere that immediate family is allowed into CRC's. Can anyone help me recall where I read this, and if it is correct, can I bring all three with me?
Aug 2, 2005, 11:10 am
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I flew FCO-ATL in Jan in BE, but was given access not to the Alitalia Lounge, but rather the generic business class lounge next door. I found that interesting. Has anyone else had that experience?
Aug 2, 2005, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by jrlander
I flew FCO-ATL in Jan in BE, but was given access not to the Alitalia Lounge, but rather the generic business class lounge next door. I found that interesting. Has anyone else had that experience?
Aug 2, 2005, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Casimir
rcs85551's information is, as always, extremely useful and interesting, and comports with my understanding as well. One note -- I was at FCO a couple of years ago as a DL PM flying intra-Europe in business class on Alitalia. I decided to check our Air France's lounge to see if it was nicer than Alitalia's.
The AF people turned me away, saying I could use Alitalia's lounge. I didn't complain as I could see their point and the lounges were across the hall or very close. However, unless I am misreading the posted instructions re: lounge access, the AF folks were wrong to turn me away, right??
The AF people turned me away, saying I could use Alitalia's lounge. I didn't complain as I could see their point and the lounges were across the hall or very close. However, unless I am misreading the posted instructions re: lounge access, the AF folks were wrong to turn me away, right??
The AF lounge at FCO is now staffed by AZ personnel. I used to get some weird looks when they found out I was flying AZ...until I explained that I wanted to use the smoking area in the AF lounge. It's the only place in FCO Terminal C where one can smoke, and most Europeans (AF or AZ) understand and sympathize.
Aug 2, 2005, 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by DFW DL
the smoking area in the AF lounge. It's the only place in FCO Terminal C where one can smoke
If you're a smoker, it's the only way to go. I am not a smoker, but I'm astonished that smoking is still not permitted onboard AF.