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Old Jul 14, 05, 10:05 pm
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Anyone know why SONG is stopping its JFK-RSW routes. They always were packed when I took them and it wasn't even during the winter months.
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Old Jul 14, 05, 10:09 pm
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Song has a limited number of aircraft. Perhaps they found a route with better yields or greater potential.

You could always get your all-coach DL fix by flying LGA-BOS-RSW with the first leg on Shuttle and the second on Song.
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Old Jul 14, 05, 10:19 pm
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Originally Posted by abouna
Anyone know why SONG is stopping its JFK-RSW routes. They always were packed when I took them and it wasn't even during the winter months.

Not sure of the reason but I'll take an educated guess.
IMO, there are only two reasons why DL would pull out of a particular route, traffic notwithstanding:

1. They were losing money on the route.
2. They were making money but there was another route where they felt they could make more money. And since they have a limited amount of aircraft, they have to deploy them in the most profitable manner possible.

Just my two pesos worth on the situation.
Perhaps some of the Song devotees on this board can give you a more meaningful explanation.

PS...I took too long to type this and see that sxf24 made basically all my points.

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Old Jul 15, 05, 8:25 am
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Song is just playing scaredy cat cuz of WN entry into RSW
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Originally Posted by dg4255
Song is just playing scaredy cat cuz of WN entry into RSW
I doubt that. Since WN doesn't fly into the three major airports in NY, they would not be an immediate threat but probably would siphon off a little business.
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Old Jul 15, 05, 12:46 pm
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When are they dropping it?
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Sep 6. That's too bad, I liked that flight. Well, good news for JetBlue I guess.
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Old Jul 17, 05, 1:36 pm
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Sorry, I don't have the link to this article, so I am posting the full thing. This may be the reason Song is pulling out... because Mainline is turning into Song (btw, this has been the rumor for years at DL, but now it is finally in black and white):
Delta CEO: Airline Must Speed Pace Of Transformation Plan

By Elizabeth Souder, Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES, Dow Jones

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Delta Air Lines Inc. Chief Executive Gerald
Grinstein said the airline must speed the pace of its business
plan to remain viable.

In a message to employees recorded earlier this week, Grinstein
said rising oil prices and ever-intensifying competition from
low-cost carriers means the Atlanta airline must move more quickly
on its plan to transform into a hybrid low-cost domestic carrier
and major international airline.


"Delta's transformation pace also must increase," Grinstein
said. "As Delta continues to pursue viability ... we must be
prepared to deliver more and to deliver it faster and better."

Grinstein said modest fare increases in the airline industry are
pushing yields in the right direction, but haven't offset the
rise in fuel costs.

On Thursday, Delta lifted the cap on its highest one-way fares by
$100. The cap was part of Delta's SimpliFares fare scheme,
implemented in January.

SimpliFares eliminated some fare rules, simplified fares into a
few categories, and cut Delta's highest fares by 50%, putting
Delta's highest fares closer to those of low-cost rivals.

Bear Stearns said in a research note Friday the fare hikes "will
allow Delta to recoup about $74 million in revenue, which does
not come close to changing Delta's enormously risky liquidity
profile."

Analysts have long warned that Delta may again face low liquidity
levels this autumn that could tip the airline into filing for
bankruptcy.

07-15-05
Copyright (C) 2005 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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Old Jul 17, 05, 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by abouna
Anyone know why SONG is stopping its JFK-RSW routes. They always were packed when I took them and it wasn't even during the winter months.
JFKRSW had the lowest load factors in the Song network.

Originally Posted by dg4255
Song is just playing scaredy cat cuz of WN entry into RSW
Song withdrew before WN announced their entry.

Originally Posted by QueenofSky
This may be the reason Song is pulling out... because Mainline is turning into Song (btw, this has been the rumor for years at DL, but now it is finally in black and white):
I don't see how that article supports your claim.

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