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Old Jul 13, 05, 9:31 am
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www.royaladventuretravel.com vs Delta

I am just trying to find the best price MSP to HNL in Sept. After reading the MR sticky I went to www.royaladventuretravel.com and they came up with a fare of $569 MSP-ATL-HNL.
So I went to Delta .com and did the same search and the cheapest fare for the same itin is $791.50 thats a big difference! Anyone know why?

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Did you check the box that says "specific times"?
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Interesting. I checked a RT from LAX/OGG and Royal Adventure Travel comes up with a DL "A" fare for $870 and DL has an "A" fare for $1580. Same dates, flights, etc.
At $870, I'd probably just buy the ticket rather than burn double miles.
It's never occurred to me to book DL travel on another website. Maybe that's what DL is counting on??
I'm wondering where RAT get's these lower fares??
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I just looked for a flight BZN-HNL next march. Royal Adventure Travel came up with a price of $620, nearly $200 less than any other travel site. When I clicked "Add to Booking" though, the price jumped to $1200, $400 more than any other travel site. Has anyone actually been able to make it through and complete a booking with the low fare?
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Old Jul 13, 05, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by vinnmann
On the RAT website, it pretty clearly indicates that "An asterisk (*) by the Class of Service denotes a special BULK -or- CONTRACT Fare which usually has Additional Restrictions"

I noticed that all of the DL fares that I pulled up for MCO-HNL showed flare class of "A*" or "D*"

This is what it has under policies
Date changes only are permitted for a $100.00 penalty fee plus any fare differential change must occur at least 24 hours prior to ticketed date of travel or change will not be permitted. Complete cancellation, prior to departure only, is subject to a $100.00 fee. An additional $50.00 fee will be assessed for any ticket(s) reissued or refunded, as well as other fees listed here. Unused or partially used tickets have no value.

Edited to add - the site is allowing me book at $569.27 plus a booking fee of $25.07 in coach class U, which is the same class as Delta wants for $791.

Now as long as I get my WP miles I will be okay!

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Old Jul 13, 05, 3:15 pm
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It looks to me like RAT is just a consolidator. Like any other consolidator, they buy in bulk from DL and other airlines and then take the chance that they can sell what they've committed to. The rules for mileage accrual with consolidator tickets vary from airline and airline and from consolidator to consolidator. You have to ask BEFORE you buy.
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I booked a BOS-TPA round trip earlier this week--checked this consolidator a few minutes ago and their price was $44.00 more than I paid through Delta.
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The new Delta website features Maui on the homepage and boasts of the new "low fare promise" so the following is ironic.

Royal Adventure Travel have a round-trip A fare from SLC-OGG on 12/30 returning 01/09 for $1079.35.

Best delta.com can offer is an F fare on the same flights for $3,471.90.
Delta.com is $2,392.55 more expensive for the same seats!

The least expensive DL coach seat for those flights is $1,518.90, $439.55 more than the first class seats on royaladventuretravel.com.

Given such a huge price differential, there is no way we can rely on any Delta "low fare promise"
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Old Aug 2, 05, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Kahuna
Given such a huge price differential, there is no way we can rely on any Delta "low fare promise"
Has anyone actually called Delta to see if they can get the "low fare promise." It's like a price match, is it not? Before you say we can't rely on them, why doesn't someone actually find out if they will match the lower price from the other web site?
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Old Aug 2, 05, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by DAL Cowboy
Has anyone actually called Delta to see if they can get the "low fare promise." It's like a price match, is it not?
No need to call, the caveat on the " low fare promise" is as follows:

1Lowest Fare of the Day means the lowest fare for the requested itinerary and travel dates published on delta.com at the time of the inquiry.

The lesson from this thread is if you are planning to use DL for travel to Hawaii and want the best price, use royaladventuretravel.com to comparison shop. It could save you almost $2,400!
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Hello. RAT is a consolidator. Like any independent business, they set their prices according to what the market will bear. Sometimes consolidators will have fares lower than the carrier. Sometimes they will be more. (Many of the consolidator fares to Europe this summer have been higher than the carriers) Sometimes the class of service ticketed by a consolidator will allow mileage accrual. Sometimes it will not. Sometimes the tickets sold by the consolidator will have more strings than the fare sold by the carrier. Sometimes there will be fewer. They buy seats in bulk and gamble that they can sell enough of them to make a profit.

Say that Supermarket X advertises that they have the lowest prices in town. They sell tomato soup for $.69 a can. I go to Supermarket X and say "hey, if I buy 100 cases of tomato soup, will you sell it to me at $.59 a can?" Like any smart business, Supermarket X agrees to the sale. No advertising costs, no stocking costs, no bagging costs.

Now I set up a stand across town and sell tomato soup. Supermarket X has no control over my pricing. I'm an independent business. I sell tomato soup for $.64 a can. Since the margins in groceries are so slim, if Supermarket X lowers its price to match me, it would loose money on every sale. But it wants to make sure it has the lowest prices as promised. So it stops selling soup to me and customers loose the option of buying soup at $.64 a can.

You can buy soup or plane tickets at $.64 and be happy, or you can b**ch that Supermarket X or DL isn't keeping its promise of lowest cost and watch your total price go up.

Be thankful that consolidators exist. In the days of regulation, they were mostly illegal. You have to shop around and look at fare, class of service, mileage accrual, change penalties, etc, and make the best decision for you. Sometimes that means that a consolidator is best for you. Sometimes it is not. But expecting DL, or any carrier, to match every consolidator fare is absurd.
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Old Aug 3, 05, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by ecaarch
Hello. RAT is a consolidator. Like any independent business, they set their prices according to what the market will bear. Sometimes consolidators will have fares lower than the carrier. Sometimes they will be more. (Many of the consolidator fares to Europe this summer have been higher than the carriers) Sometimes the class of service ticketed by a consolidator will allow mileage accrual. Sometimes it will not. Sometimes the tickets sold by the consolidator will have more strings than the fare sold by the carrier. Sometimes there will be fewer. They buy seats in bulk and gamble that they can sell enough of them to make a profit.

Say that Supermarket X advertises that they have the lowest prices in town. They sell tomato soup for $.69 a can. I go to Supermarket X and say "hey, if I buy 100 cases of tomato soup, will you sell it to me at $.59 a can?" Like any smart business, Supermarket X agrees to the sale. No advertising costs, no stocking costs, no bagging costs.

Now I set up a stand across town and sell tomato soup. Supermarket X has no control over my pricing. I'm an independent business. I sell tomato soup for $.64 a can. Since the margins in groceries are so slim, if Supermarket X lowers its price to match me, it would loose money on every sale. But it wants to make sure it has the lowest prices as promised. So it stops selling soup to me and customers loose the option of buying soup at $.64 a can.

You can buy soup or plane tickets at $.64 and be happy, or you can b**ch that Supermarket X or DL isn't keeping its promise of lowest cost and watch your total price go up.

Be thankful that consolidators exist. In the days of regulation, they were mostly illegal. You have to shop around and look at fare, class of service, mileage accrual, change penalties, etc, and make the best decision for you. Sometimes that means that a consolidator is best for you. Sometimes it is not. But expecting DL, or any carrier, to match every consolidator fare is absurd.

Read the post before you respond. It is not a "b**ch" about DL, it is general travel advice for anyone travelling to HI who may want the lowest available fare and not the lowest fare on Delta.com
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