Delta SUCKS for award travel in Europe.. HELP
Jun 17, 2005, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by flytoeat
If Skymiles are redeemed for AF/KL flights, DL "owes" AF/KL mileage seats on DL (or cash) as compensation. DL would rather limit this and sell those seats instead given the high load factors.
Jun 17, 2005, 8:49 am
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I just booked 3 Skysaver seats from ATL to CDG for March. Not my first choice of destinations, not my first choice of dates, but Spring Break is just a week and we had to go somewhere. GIG, EZE, AMS and SVO were also available.
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Jun 17, 2005, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by flytoeat
If Skymiles are redeemed for AF/KL flights, DL "owes" AF/KL mileage seats on DL (or cash) as compensation. DL would rather limit this and sell those seats instead given the high load factors.
Jun 17, 2005, 10:17 am
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I think way too many people are reading way too much into DL's statement on the "blackout". Probably DL shoulda used different wording, but I read it as DL had already awarded all it could for the summer months (no surprise that seats run out at peak travel times) and had stopped taking reservations or waitlisting people on flights that they knew they would never get. Lots of people DID get travel awards to Europe for the summer and now the supply is exhausted. It happens. Move on.
Jun 17, 2005, 11:56 am
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One reason Delta may not want to award more award seats to Europe might be the high airfares.
For instance, from Phx to Istanbul, the airfare in July was around $1200 in the last couple of years, but this year the airfare is around $1500-1600. So they can make more money
, and Delta is entitled to do this. It may help them to ease their financial situation.
After reading most of the messages it seems if I call at the right time and talk to an experienced representative, then I can secure an award ticket.
Have a good weekend
For instance, from Phx to Istanbul, the airfare in July was around $1200 in the last couple of years, but this year the airfare is around $1500-1600. So they can make more money
, and Delta is entitled to do this. It may help them to ease their financial situation.After reading most of the messages it seems if I call at the right time and talk to an experienced representative, then I can secure an award ticket.
Have a good weekend
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Jun 17, 2005, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by ecaarch
I think way too many people are reading way too much into DL's statement on the "blackout". Probably DL shoulda used different wording, but I read it as DL had already awarded all it could for the summer months (no surprise that seats run out at peak travel times) and had stopped taking reservations or waitlisting people on flights that they knew they would never get. Lots of people DID get travel awards to Europe for the summer and now the supply is exhausted. It happens. Move on.
Also, losing the connecting flights to places that DL doesn't fly to anymore in Europe is another major blow.
And...the supply on AF/KL is NOT exhausted if you are using CO Onepass or NW Worldperks miles!!!!! Only DL kicked its best customers in the ... this way.
Jun 17, 2005, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ecaarch
3-4 months in advance of a November departure to Europe is VERY different from 3-4 months in advance of February departure.
So then I should expect to be able to get a j seat to DUB ex LAX in October ( 7 months in advance). Correct?
Nothing at all on any ST airline combination into DUB
best they could do was into MAN and back from LGW with me having to pick up the tab from UK to DUB r/t and having to overnight in LGW
Does not seem too great to me!
Jun 18, 2005, 12:19 pm
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Unfortunately that's what happens when you don't word the statement properly. If what you're saying is correct, then DL should have said such.
Originally Posted by ecaarch
I think way too many people are reading way too much into DL's statement on the "blackout". Probably DL shoulda used different wording, but I read it as DL had already awarded all it could for the summer months (no surprise that seats run out at peak travel times) and had stopped taking reservations or waitlisting people on flights that they knew they would never get. Lots of people DID get travel awards to Europe for the summer and now the supply is exhausted. It happens. Move on.
Jun 18, 2005, 2:18 pm
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Jun 20, 2005, 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by aceflyer2
Unfortunately that's what happens when you don't word the statement properly. If what you're saying is correct, then DL should have said such.
Jun 20, 2005, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by aceflyer2
Unfortunately that's what happens when you don't word the statement properly. If what you're saying is correct, then DL should have said such.
Link to the statement, please?
Jun 20, 2005, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by vinnmann
My calendar shows that October is 4 months from now.
yeh but 3 months ago it was 7 months out
Jun 20, 2005, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by eireman
yeh but 3 months ago it was 7 months out
That is unless you counted the other direction and then it would be 2 months in.
Waiting until next month, we're only looking at 3 months out or 9 months in depending on whether one looks forward or backward.
Hope this clears up the situation.....
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Jun 20, 2005, 1:37 pm
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Jun 20, 2005, 1:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Cholula
Well, 2 months ago it was only 6 months out but if you go back 5 months it was 10 months out.
That is unless you counted the other direction and then it would be 2 months in.
Waiting until next month, we're only looking at 3 months out or 9 months in depending on whether one looks forward or backward.
Hope this clears up the situation......
That is unless you counted the other direction and then it would be 2 months in.
Waiting until next month, we're only looking at 3 months out or 9 months in depending on whether one looks forward or backward.
Hope this clears up the situation.....
.