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Minimum connection time at AMS

Note: when determining the airline for MCT purposes, what counts is who markets the flight, not who operates it.

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL: 50 minutes

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL, DL-KL, or DL-DL: 25 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL or KL-DL: 90 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-KL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL or DL-KL: 60 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-DL, DL-KL, or KL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL: anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours--it depends on the flight numbers and the dates. I've posted the raw output below to help you figure out which MCT will apply.

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KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2040 - FLT 4141
KL-KL II .55 FLT 602 - FLT 597 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II SUP FLT 1230 - FLT 743 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1382 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 902 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1392 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1394 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 758 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 894 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 884 - ALL OPN -29MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 622 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 692 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 724 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 734 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 792 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3823
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3948
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 210 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3822 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3949 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 4102 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 4991 - ALL
KL-KL II .55 FLT 758 - ALL 03DEC18-28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 876 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 878 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 434 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 604 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 606 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 608 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 882 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 884 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.55 FLT 888 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 894 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 896 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 566 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - LIN
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - FCO
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 LIN - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 FCO - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 400 - 1999 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3108 - 3109
KL-KL II .50 FLT 2000 - 2369 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2370 - 2529 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2700 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2823 - 2826 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.45 FLT 2960 - 2999 - FLT 300 - 899
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 3000 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II .40 FLT 3108 - 3109 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 6199 - FLT 2700 - 4999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 400 - 1999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2000 - 2369
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2370 - 2529
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 GRU - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 YVR - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 400 - 1999 - ALL EQP ALL - TRN
ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3096 - 3099 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.40 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.40 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 320 - 329
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759
KL-KL II 2.00 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3152 - 3173
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3646 - 3649
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2823 - 2826 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2960 - 2999 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3100 - 3107 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3178 - 3183 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3646 - 3649 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 EQP ALL - TRN GROUP3 - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 EQP TRN - ALL

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Jun 16, 2018, 11:51 am

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Last week schedule change has left my LAX-DTW-AMS-OTP flight with a 65 minute connection at AMS-OTP. FWIW, Sunday flight arriving 12:30pm, departing 1:35pm. Delta/KLM on one ticket, so bags will be checked to OTP, is that correct?

Is the 65 minutes enough time to clear whatever it is I need to clear (and maybe outside for a quick smoke, unless there's indoor smoking lounges) or do I reschedule a later flight to OTP?

Jun 17, 2018, 4:24 am

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It's doable. It'll be tight and you won't be stopping for a smoke even if there is airside lounge. Note coming from US there's no need to clear security before connecting flight.

Jun 17, 2018, 6:00 am

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Yes, your bags will be checked through. 65 minutes should be enough assuming the inbound is on time, but you won't have much time to dawdle. Immigration shouldn't be too bad, but there is a quick connections line if it is. (If immigration is so backed up you can't even get to the maze, look for the toilets just before the immigration checkpoint. The quick connections line is just past it on the right of the main queue.)

On top of immigration, figure 5-20 minutes of walking depending on which gates and your speed.

Sep 21, 2018, 8:56 am

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FCO-AMS-SEA: 1:10 minute connection in AMS

One ticket. KLM from Rome to AMS. Delta to SEA. Doable? Thanks.

Sep 21, 2018, 9:40 am

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easily doable

look, if it weren't doable, they wouldn't sell it

Sep 21, 2018, 9:41 am

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the question you need to be asking isn't "is this doable," it's "what are my options if there is a problem." Is that the last flight out that day? Can you re-route through JFK or ATL if you misconnect? etc.

Sep 21, 2018, 9:43 am

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Agreed. Is this connection in AMS a gate to gate w/o any formalities in between? ( security etc.)

Sep 21, 2018, 10:10 am

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Agreed. Is this connection in AMS a gate to gate w/o any formalities in between? ( security etc.)

No, arriving from FCO will be in the schengen area. the passenger will have to go through passport control to exit the schengen area, and answer security questions at "gate" D1 (or the club).

Sep 21, 2018, 1:59 pm

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If your flight is departing from AMS in 2019 then you can forget about the security questions at 'D1' as well

(The Ministry of Justice and Security issued an instruction to Schiphol that profiling is no longer necessary as of 1 January 2019), thanks to the introduction of CT-scans.

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Sep 21, 2018, 3:31 pm

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Passport control between schengen and non-schengen is seperate from passengers that originate in AMS and usually takes no longer than 1 to 5 minutes.

The additional screening that Delta does at D1 shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes either. You'll have plenty of time to relax in the KLM Crown lounge after both formalities.

You do not have to pass security. After deplaning, just follow the signs to "D, E, F - etc" gates. Just past the C concourse, you'll pass passport control. After that, directly on your right, you'll see the entrance for the D councourse, with the Delta "D1" desks on the left. Go there and get the sticker for your passport. After that, keep on walking towards E and F gates and follow the sign to "Airline lounge 52" - which is the KLM Crown lounge". These will point you to an elevator that is on your left, halfway between the D and E concourses. After exiting the elevator (other side), go right. As there are still working on the lounge, this is a hallway past the new lounge construction. The entrance is on the end of the hallway. You can also continue downstairs towards the E and F concourses and take the escalator up.

I am assuming you've got access due to Elite+ status or travelling in business, if not, forget about the lounge. If you do not have Skyteam lounge access, but have a Priority Pass, follow the signs to lounge 41. Take the escalator up just outside the entrance to the D concourse. When you're upstairs, just keep walking in the same direction. You'll see an elevator there that takes you up to the third floor where the Aspire lounge is located, which takes Priority Pass.

Your flight will probably depart from a D or E gate. All gates in these concourses are within 5 minutes walking from either lounge. If you're a slow walker, take 10 minutes. All gates at AMS close 15 minutes prior to departure.

Last edited by roelb; Sep 22, 2018 at 5:24 am

Sep 21, 2018, 9:24 pm

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Why would a Dutch Ministry be able to order US airlines to no longer need to profile? Or was the order more informational, ie the US has informed us that it'll no longer be necessary.

Sep 22, 2018, 5:22 am

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Why would a Dutch Ministry be able to order US airlines to no longer need to profile? Or was the order more informational, ie the US has informed us that it'll no longer be necessary.

Schiphol considers the safety level high enough to scrap the profiling part.

With the introduction of the CT scan, the safety level of Schiphol is so high that it is no longer necessary to profile the risk flights to America (HRF). The CT scan can detect all kinds of explosives and by means of the 3-D scan it is not necessary to unpack suitcases. For this reason, the Ministry of Justice and Security has given Schiphol a signal that profiling is no longer necessary as of 1 January 2019.

Sep 22, 2018, 5:26 am

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I do concur with @flyerCO: the extra interviews are a decision by the airline, not by Schiphol. There are no interviews if you fly KLM, or other airlines into the USA. It's just Delta that does this. Not just in AMS, but in DUS and BRU as well, just at a different point (in DUS, they do it prior to entering the checkin/bag drop queue).

Sep 22, 2018, 7:39 am

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In BRU they do it also prior to entering the checkin/bag drop queue. In the past, at AMS and other EU airports you also got those questions while flying other US carriers (Flying AA AMS-PHL; Once at the check-in/baggage drop desk and again to get in the holding area for the gate) . While at other airports you just had check the questions off at the kiosk while checking in for Delta (NRT was one of those iirc).

Nevertheless on January 1 2019 Procheck International ceases to exist @AMS. I'm sure there are still other appropriate measures in place. Like additional security checks at the gate for flights to the US still occuring.

Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 am

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I think confusing what the D1 gate does. It's a requirement by US for US airlines. It's not a Dutch or AMS imposed requirement . I think what goes away is the extra security at gate before flights to US.