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cpx Sep 20, 06 12:38 pm

AMS is one of the best airport to transit through.

Even if you have to go through passport control.. its pretty fast.

peachfront Oct 9, 06 11:18 am

70 minutes connection time AMS-LIS?
 
I keep coming up with this over and over again. Has anyone done this? Is it actually possible to land at AMS and catch the connection to LIS in that amount of time? I'm about ready to give up on the whole trip because it just looks too stressful. Why are they leaving so little time to make the connection? Anyone know?

fromYXU Oct 9, 06 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by peachfront
I keep coming up with this over and over again. Has anyone done this? Is it actually possible to land at AMS and catch the connection to LIS in that amount of time? I'm about ready to give up on the whole trip because it just looks too stressful. Why are they leaving so little time to make the connection? Anyone know?

It can be done. You will need to go directly to your connecting flight. I have done it with a 60 min connection before. No time to spend in the shops....

Yub Oct 9, 06 2:02 pm

I didn't have any problems with a 55 minute connection last year flying ORD-AMS-MUC. I recall that it was a fairly long distance between gates but there are moving walkways to help speed things along. The lines at the Schengen passport control area were a bit slow, but I still made it to the gate before the start of boarding.

TrayflowInUK Oct 9, 06 2:19 pm

The Schengen transfer passport control is located where D-pier hooks onto the main terminal building. Your flight from the US will most likely arrive in E, F, or G pier, and you will need to clear immigration (aforementioned) and security before proceeding to your LIS flight. This is entirely possible and I've done it before.

Last time I went through Schiphol, I noticed there is now a dedicated "shocon" line for short connections. It's at the far left of the passport queues, it's a vertically-oriented plasma display showing flight numbers. If your flight is one of these, you can use the shocon line, so this should increase your odds of making it.

If you miss your flight due to late inbound aircraft for any reason, you'll be stuck in See Buy Fly for quite a while :(. There are only two KL flights a day, and KL is notoriously bad about rerouting:
KL1693 AMS 1235 LIS 1430
KL1697 AMS 2110 LIS 2305

However, if you arrive late, even by an hour, and the first monitor you see says "Gate Closed", make a run for it anyway, as IME I've seen it say GATE CLOSED before boarding even started.

Yaatri Oct 9, 06 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by peachfront
I keep coming up with this over and over again. Has anyone done this? Is it actually possible to land at AMS and catch the connection to LIS in that amount of time? I'm about ready to give up on the whole trip because it just looks too stressful. Why are they leaving so little time to make the connection? Anyone know?

70 minutes connection time in AMS is plenty going to LIS.

peachfront Oct 9, 06 3:04 pm

thanks, all
 
I appreciate the reassurances. I'll be going! I was not aware of the short connections line, I'll watch for that one. It's always great to get advice from people who have gone before.

avidflyer Oct 9, 06 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
The Schengen transfer passport control is located where D-pier hooks onto the main terminal building. Your flight from the US will most likely arrive in E, F, or G pier, and you will need to clear immigration (aforementioned) and security before proceeding to your LIS flight. This is entirely possible and I've done it before.

Last time I went through Schiphol, I noticed there is now a dedicated "shocon" line for short connections. It's at the far left of the passport queues, it's a vertically-oriented plasma display showing flight numbers. If your flight is one of these, you can use the shocon line, so this should increase your odds of making it.

If you miss your flight due to late inbound aircraft for any reason, you'll be stuck in See Buy Fly for quite a while :(. There are only two KL flights a day, and KL is notoriously bad about rerouting:
KL1693 AMS 1235 LIS 1430
KL1697 AMS 2110 LIS 2305

However, if you arrive late, even by an hour, and the first monitor you see says "Gate Closed", make a run for it anyway, as IME I've seen it say GATE CLOSED before boarding even started.

There are worse places to be stuck for a day...:)

Orion316 Oct 9, 06 5:09 pm

No problem
 
I think I've done the exact thing you're trying to do after volunteering my seat on an earlier flight. The WBC across the pond easily made up for the (little bit) of stress of the short connection.


Originally Posted by Yaatri
70 minutes connection time in AMS is plenty going to LIS.


tharris Oct 10, 06 8:22 am

Another thing to remember is that you have a *scheduled* 70 minute connection. Your flight may arrive at AMS before, or after, that, and the taxi time can seem extensive when you are in a hurry. If you are in the back of the plane, it can take 20 minutes to get out.

My last trip to LIS (last month) gave us 2 hours in AMS. During that time we went to the club for snacks and hit nearly every shop before going through passport control (I didn't see the short connection line, but found another line that had recently opened and was very short - just because few people are using it doesn't mean they know what they are doing). We waited at the gate that showed "boarding" for about 10 minutes before it was actually true.

On a return trip a couple of years ago, my LIS-AMS flight was very late (they usually are only a little late ;) ). We ran as fast as we could to the DTW or MSP connecting flight. The security agent gave us a hard time and looked like he might not let us on the plane because we were not there when we were supposed to be (Why were you late? What were you doing?...). The KLM ticket agents in the area smiled and said they always do that, but as long as the doors weren't closed and you didn't look like a security risk, they let you through.

I certainly wouldn't worry about the connection time. If you miss the connection, make sure to take advantage of your time in AMS and go into the city. If not, enjoy Portugal. For me half the fun in travelling is making the best of the unexpected and relaxing my normally uber-controlling self.

jjlovecub Dec 17, 07 11:11 am


Originally Posted by themicah (Post 6406865)
I'm pretty sure (somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure) that only connections between Schengen and non-Schengen countries require clearing passport control. Since neither the UK nor the US is a Schengen country, your daughter should NOT pass through passport control in AMS.

She will, however, go through an extra security check at the gate for the US-bound flight.

1:20 is plenty of time unless the first flight is horribly delayed. I've made AMS connections (with my bags) in under 25 minutes when the inbound flight was delayed. AMS is a great airport to connect through. Be sure to have your daughter pick up a slab of gouda in the airport on her way home.

I am returning on a trip ROM-AMS-MEM and have a 50 min layover in AMS. From reading this thread I think I'll be ok (and I don't go through immigration??) but wanted to verify - Thanks for your help.

YVR Cockroach Dec 17, 07 11:29 am

Just security. All non-Schengen departing flights have security conducted at the gate (in the D, E, F and G piers) so no worry about missing the flight due to security as they know you're waiting to clear! U.S. flights have extra questioning as mentioned.

SpinzCity Dec 17, 07 12:49 pm

If you are coming from a Schengen country (Italy) you will have to go through a passport control on the way to the non-Schengen area. Sometimes there is a bit of a queue, but it normally only takes a few minutes. Then when you get to the gate there is security there, but if you've gotten that far you've pretty much made it.l

Fredgoblu Dec 17, 07 3:10 pm

SpinzCity's got it right...once you're at the gate, you're in...whether there's a line for the final security check or not.

You're only two concerns are: the passport check between the domestic concourses (B or C, probably) and the international gates (E); and the walk itself. Passport check is usually okay on this side, but I was in a 10 minute line a couple weeks ago. The walk itself is ~15 minutes, depending on the gates. Don't be bashful about pushing past standers on the moving walkways.

KtownTraveler Dec 17, 07 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by Fredgoblu (Post 8912246)
Don't be bashful about pushing past standers on the moving walkways.

Only if you "mind your step!" :D


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