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Old Nov 28, 18, 12:40 pm
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Minimum connection time at AMS
Note: when determining the airline for MCT purposes, what counts is who markets the flight, not who operates it.

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL: 50 minutes

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL, DL-KL, or DL-DL: 25 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL or KL-DL: 90 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-KL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL or DL-KL: 60 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-DL, DL-KL, or KL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL: anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours--it depends on the flight numbers and the dates. I've posted the raw output below to help you figure out which MCT will apply.
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2040 - FLT 4141
KL-KL II .55 FLT 602 - FLT 597 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II SUP FLT 1230 - FLT 743 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1382 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 902 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1392 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1394 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 758 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 894 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 884 - ALL OPN -29MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 622 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 692 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 724 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 734 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 792 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3823
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3948
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 210 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3822 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3949 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 4102 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 4991 - ALL
KL-KL II .55 FLT 758 - ALL 03DEC18-28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 876 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 878 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 434 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 604 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 606 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 608 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 882 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 884 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.55 FLT 888 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 894 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 896 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 566 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - LIN
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - FCO
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 LIN - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 FCO - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 400 - 1999 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3108 - 3109
KL-KL II .50 FLT 2000 - 2369 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2370 - 2529 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2700 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2823 - 2826 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.45 FLT 2960 - 2999 - FLT 300 - 899
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 3000 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II .40 FLT 3108 - 3109 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 6199 - FLT 2700 - 4999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 400 - 1999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2000 - 2369
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2370 - 2529
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 GRU - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 YVR - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 400 - 1999 - ALL EQP ALL - TRN
ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3096 - 3099 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.40 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.40 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 320 - 329
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759
KL-KL II 2.00 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3152 - 3173
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3646 - 3649
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2823 - 2826 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2960 - 2999 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3100 - 3107 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3178 - 3183 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3646 - 3649 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 EQP ALL - TRN GROUP3 - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 EQP TRN - ALL
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Old Aug 29, 17, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
Security and passport control will happening in Edingburgh. @AMS he will arrive and depart in Lounge 2 (non-Schengen). No security or passport control by the KMAR.
When he arrives he has to go to D1 (Delta PDC) there his documents will be checked by security hired by Delta and he will get his gate number, much of the time Delta flights will be leaving from one of the D or E-gates. At the gate, when boarding, again a quick check of his BP and passport by security employees hired by Delta.
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I'm planning on arriving from the states around 5:50am D1 svc and on a separate booking lv AMS-MAN at 0755. Doable in a slow walk?

Do I and my bags have to clear immigration and customs before I can go to the gate for my flight to the UK?

I realize that the separate ticket on KLM adds confusion but it saves me about $800 on a through fare
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Originally Posted by Lomapaseo
I'm planning on arriving from the states around 5:50am D1 svc and on a separate booking lv AMS-MAN at 0755. Doable in a slow walk?

Do I and my bags have to clear immigration and customs before I can go to the gate for my flight to the UK?

I realize that the separate ticket on KLM adds confusion but it saves me about $800 on a through fare
UK is not in Schengen, thus you won't clear immigration at AMS. Also arriving from US, no need to reclear security at AMS.


Male sure DL tags your bags through onto the connecting flight. They'll do it since it's a KLM flight. They may even issue the BP fot the KL flight.
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
UK is not in Schengen, thus you won't clear immigration at AMS. Also arriving from US, no need to reclear security at AMS.


Male sure DL tags your bags through onto the connecting flight. They'll do it since it's a KLM flight. They may even issue the BP fot the KL flight.
All makes sense if DL cooperates

as a backup if the bags only get tagged to AMs, I assume I will have to collect them and enter the country in order to re-check them and of course pass through security?then

Does KL offer any medallion status upgrades on inter-Europe flights?
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Originally Posted by Lomapaseo
All makes sense if DL cooperates

as a backup if the bags only get tagged to AMs, I assume I will have to collect them and enter the country in order to re-check them and of course pass through security?then

Does KL offer any medallion status upgrades on inter-Europe flights?
Through checking luggage wont be an issue. DL/KL is one of the few times i dont worry when on separate tickets.

No upgrades on KL flights. Nor is it really a loss. Euro Business is simply regular coach with middle seat blocked on European airlines.
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Through checking luggage wont be an issue. DL/KL is one of the few times i dont worry when on separate tickets.

No upgrades on KL flights. Nor is it really a loss. Euro Business is simply regular coach with middle seat blocked on European airlines.
Delta should not have a problem tagging all the way thru. And we have been upgraded (even after using points) by DL on a KLM flight from DXB to AMS in November. Upgraded to whatever KLM's premium economy is due to status. Anyone know what that is?
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Flying MSP to AMS on Delta and then continuing on to Nairobi on KLM with a 2 hour connection. I haven't traveled via AMS before thus will we need to clear security/immigration?

Seems like sufficient time however I just want to confirm.
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Originally Posted by kajonesbu
Flying MSP to AMS on Delta and then continuing on to Nairobi on KLM with a 2 hour connection. I haven't traveled via AMS before thus will we need to clear security/immigration?

Seems like sufficient time however I just want to confirm.
No security, no immigration. From the US you will go straight into the non-Schengen part of the airport. Flights to Nairobi also depart from this area. Just make sure your bags are checked all the way through to Nairobi.
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So just today, I flew ARN-AMS on KLM with 1:35 to make my Delta connection to the States. First time at AMS airport...stunned at how massive it was. I made my flight with no problem, but it was a hike. I asked the Security clearance people if it was always so busy and they said today was relatively light! Had to go thru passport control along the way--chose the fast connection lane and got thru quickly. There was an automated lane for everyone else, and it was maybe 15 people deep per lane--so either way, no problem.

As a bonus, I got flagged for additional security at the gate. At first I was bummed...but then I learned that this put me in place for early boarding (ahead of even D1). So if you are tagged for extra screening, realize it is a good thing!
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55 min good enough?
I am flying DL from ATL to AMS, arriving 5:55am, 55 min layover before KLM flight to ARN, departing 6:50 am. Anyone see any problems with this? I know I have to go thru passport control, maybe thru quick connect line, but that is all, correct?
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Originally Posted by Fsulaw1
I am flying DL from ATL to AMS, arriving 5:55am, 55 min layover before KLM flight to ARN, departing 6:50 am. Anyone see any problems with this? I know I have to go thru passport control, maybe thru quick connect line, but that is all, correct?
Correct passport control only. No security since coming from US. Yes use quick connect line. Shouldn't be an issue at that hour.
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Correct passport control only. No security since coming from US. Yes use quick connect line. Shouldn't be an issue at that hour.
Agree. And if you depart ex-ATL even close to on-time you'll probably arrive 15+ minutes early. They (Delta) tend to block extra time and the eastbound flights in my experience almost always arrive a bit early.
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Parents are flying ATL > AMS on Delta in award J, landing at 8:15AM. Want to book a second PNR with KLM flight to OTP at 9:20AM. Would they be able to make it through security? For reference, both KL and DL sell this connection.

If we missed it, what is KL's rebooking/protection policy?
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Security? That means they have luggage not checked through. Forget it, certainly at that time and if they are your parents. (KMAR check, retreiving luggage, drop luggage, security).
On one PNR and/or luggage checked through: then no problem.
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
Security? That means they have luggage not checked through. Forget it, certainly at that time and if they are your parents. (KMAR check, retreiving luggage, drop luggage, security).
On one PNR and/or luggage checked through: then no problem.
Delta should check in their luggage through to the final destination and issue boarding passes for both flights at ATL even if they are on 2 separate tickets.

In cases as noted below, when more than one ticket is presented, Delta will continue to through-check baggage from the origin to the destination.

An entire journey (itinerary) consisting of Delta-marketed / Delta-operated flights
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Delta ticket plus a ticket on the Delta partner airlines listed below:
Aeromexico (AM)
Air France (AF)
Alitalia (AZ)
China Eastern (MU)
GOL (G3)
KLM (KL)
Virgin Atlantic (VS)
Virgin Australia (VA)
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Ticket with travel on a Visit USA (VUSA) fare
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