ExpertFlyer and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread
Jul 21, 2011, 2:30 pm
#1097
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Agreed but that would mean a potentially unlimited number of hits against an airline's inventory system. I'm sure the airlines would want to restrict that, plus I'm not sure what sort of per-click fees EF pays for this info.
Jul 26, 2011, 2:10 pm
#1098
Join Date: Apr 2002
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expertflyer now returning V class in ordinary availability searches
looking at some flights next week, and seeing F9 A9 P9 V5 Y9 ..........
is delta up to something nefarious? or is this just expertflyer getting a better data source? certainly nice to see everything in one place...
edit: and it looks like in the last couple of minutes, G was also added... and X/Z on business cabin flights.
is delta up to something nefarious? or is this just expertflyer getting a better data source? certainly nice to see everything in one place...
edit: and it looks like in the last couple of minutes, G was also added... and X/Z on business cabin flights.
Jul 26, 2011, 2:11 pm
#1099
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Jul 26, 2011, 2:45 pm
#1102
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Thanks!
Last edited by MikeyZBT; Jul 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm Reason: I found how to do it on flightstats.com. Nice to see upgrade availability.
Jul 26, 2011, 2:48 pm
#1103
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looking at some flights next week, and seeing F9 A9 P9 V5 Y9 ..........
is delta up to something nefarious? or is this just expertflyer getting a better data source? certainly nice to see everything in one place...
edit: and it looks like in the last couple of minutes, G was also added... and X/Z on business cabin flights.
is delta up to something nefarious? or is this just expertflyer getting a better data source? certainly nice to see everything in one place...
edit: and it looks like in the last couple of minutes, G was also added... and X/Z on business cabin flights.
Jul 26, 2011, 3:27 pm
#1104
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...stats-com.html among other threads ...
Aug 4, 2011, 1:03 pm
#1106
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EF Says No Availability; DL Just Sold it to Me
Interesting thing happened to me. I was looking for a flight HKG-->NRT-->HKG on DL.dumb and I saw a pretty good fare in a K bucket (almost the lowest bucket typically available on this route) with the "Only 2 tickets remaining at this price" warning.
Out of curiosity I went to EF to see if it showed K2 or K more than 2 due to married segment availability. It showed K0!
I realize EF is not perfect but I was surprised to see them show K0 yet DL willing to sell me a K fare online. I expected to get the "sorry, the fare has increased" BS after accepting, but my purchase went through.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Seen this before?
Out of curiosity I went to EF to see if it showed K2 or K more than 2 due to married segment availability. It showed K0!
I realize EF is not perfect but I was surprised to see them show K0 yet DL willing to sell me a K fare online. I expected to get the "sorry, the fare has increased" BS after accepting, but my purchase went through.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Seen this before?
Aug 4, 2011, 1:48 pm
#1107
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Aug 4, 2011, 2:03 pm
#1108
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None. What I meant was, you will often see LUT availability on HKG-->NRT segments when those fares aren't sold on that route. It's for people connecting in NRT to and from the USA. I wanted to see what kind of K availability was left, given that DL claimed only 2 more seats were available at that fare.
Aug 4, 2011, 3:29 pm
#1109
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Delta.com seat availability vs expertflyer availability
I just checked in for my flight about 22 before departure and looking at the upgrade/standby display on delta.com it shows available seats of F3, Y25; however on expertflyer it shows F2, Y3. I realize that the maximum expertflyer would typically show is 7 or 9, but is seems curious that there would be the discrepancy I am seeing ... am I missing or misinterpreting something?
Aug 4, 2011, 3:30 pm
#1110
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Seat availability can change lickety split. Add to that a couple of different methods which EF can use to access availability and that airlines do not always show the identical availability via GDS as to their own systems (intentionally). Plus any latency if EF only accesses various data periodically rather than on demand.
You can get close. Exactly much of the time. But different sometimes.
You can get close. Exactly much of the time. But different sometimes.