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ExpertFlyer and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread

ExpertFlyer and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread

Old Aug 7, 2022, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Eddie98
Is this still true today? I'm trying to find Upgrade inventory on DL95 DTW-NGO and DL is not even a choice.
Yes, it's still true -- you cannot directly look up DL upgrade inventory buckets in EF. Although if I'm interpreting the wiki on the new GUC thread correctly: Using Global Upgrades on Delta (GUCs) post 2/1/2022 Changes

then if you buy PS outright + apply GUC, you need Z inventory for a D1 upgrade (even though it will clear into OK) which you can search for using the Flight Availability search.

(Similarly for domestic RUC usage on non-D1 domestic routes, look for Z inventory, but clears into OL)
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Old Aug 8, 2022, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Eddie98
Is this still true today? I'm trying to find Upgrade inventory on DL95 DTW-NGO and DL is not even a choice.
You can't view any of the two letter upgrade buckets (OY, OL, OK, etc), but you can view J C D I Z. If you're trying to use a GUC, you have two options:
  • Buy Main/Comfort+, clear into PS if there is at least P1 availability, and you are eligible to be further upgraded into D1 starting at 24 hours (ish) before the flight. This depends on some internal availability, and then, if under gate control, space availability if there are unassigned seats
  • Buy PS, clear into D1 if there is at least Z1.
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Old Aug 9, 2022, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by UnevenGray
You can't view any of the two letter upgrade buckets (OY, OL, OK, etc), but you can view J C D I Z. If you're trying to use a GUC, you have two options:
  • Buy Main/Comfort+, clear into PS if there is at least P1 availability, and you are eligible to be further upgraded into D1 starting at 24 hours (ish) before the flight. This depends on some internal availability, and then, if under gate control, space availability if there are unassigned seats
  • Buy PS, clear into D1 if there is at least Z1.
Originally Posted by Zorak
Yes, it's still true -- you cannot directly look up DL upgrade inventory buckets in EF. Although if I'm interpreting the wiki on the new GUC thread correctly: Using Global Upgrades on Delta (GUCs) post 2/1/2022 Changes

then if you buy PS outright + apply GUC, you need Z inventory for a D1 upgrade (even though it will clear into OK) which you can search for using the Flight Availability search.

(Similarly for domestic RUC usage on non-D1 domestic routes, look for Z inventory, but clears into OL)
Thanks for the explanation Guys. I have 4 GUCs I need to burn this year and my first trip back to Japan for work.
I see Z & P inventory, 9 after each letter. I waited too long to purchase and now it's about $800 more than before. I hope they will come down a little as time gets closer.

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Old Aug 17, 2022, 6:23 am
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DL not showing up in Expert Flyer?

Trying to look for upgrade space for next year…don’t see DL listed in EF. Is it a system bug or something changed?


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Old Aug 17, 2022, 6:31 am
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Delta doesn't release upgrade space so will not show in EF - hasn't for a long time IIRC
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by pharmflyer
Delta doesn't release upgrade space so will not show in EF - hasn't for a long time IIRC
I don’t think so…I have set up DL alerts in EF before.
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 6:51 am
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I never found the EF listings for DL to be very accurate when they existed (and I don't recall upgrade bucket availability being exposed, only awards). Not surprised they have been removed.
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by metalblaze
I don’t think so…I have set up DL alerts in EF before.
Hmm oh well- my bad. I was thinking there have been reports of Z availability mirroring upgrade space for certs but it's been hit or miss in my experience.
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by metalblaze
I don’t think so…I have set up DL alerts in EF before.
DL restricted what EF could access few years ago. If I remember they had to create a work around/agree to pay.
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 10:34 am
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Specific upgrade inventory such OY etc has not been available in expertflyer for years, since DL blocked providing that information.
You can only get revenue bucket inventory.
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by rylan
Specific upgrade inventory such OY etc has not been available in expertflyer for years, since DL blocked providing that information.
You can only get revenue bucket inventory.
Okay so I'm not going crazy - thank you! haha
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by rylan
Specific upgrade inventory such OY etc has not been available in expertflyer for years, since DL blocked providing that information.
You can only get revenue bucket inventory.
You could get straight O/N in past. However I believe this was done via a work around using a partner airlines system. It wasn't always reliable and only provided straight O/N inventory. (So only useful for low level awards)
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Old Aug 17, 2022, 10:54 am
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2013, apparently: Delta forces ExpertFlyer to remove Elite Upgrade availability

also the master thread for DL-on-EF, where a similar question was asked recently: ExpertFlyer and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread
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Old Aug 18, 2022, 3:26 am
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Even for revenue flights you used to have to search DL separately, but it seems that recently DL results show in the regular search. But the “Awards and Upgrades” search is another animal.
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Old Aug 18, 2022, 7:49 am
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Yeah something did improve, since it seems that EF is getting real inventory from the system and not having to screen scrape or whatever workaround they were doing before. But its a negative on upgrade inventory.
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