May 24, 2013, 2:53 am
Last edit by: LoganFlyer
According to EF these are the MCTs for JFK:
LA to DL I-I: 1 hour 30 minutes
Generic online and offline:
D-D: 1 hour
D-I: 1 hour 15 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 45 minutes
I-I: 2 hours
DL to DL Connections
- D-D: 35 minutes
- D-I: 45 minutes except 55 minutes if connecting to HAV.
- I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes except: 1 hour if coming from Ireland, AUA, BDA, FPO, or NAS; 1 hour 55 minutes if coming from HAV. Note if you're coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, it's considered a domestic flight and the D-D times above apply.
- I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes except: 1 hour if coming from Ireland or AUA; 45 minutes if coming from BDA, FPO, or NAS; 2 hours if arriving on a DL-marketed flight that arrives into Terminal 1. Note if you're coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, it's considered a domestic flight and the D-I times above apply.
DL to/from AF
- DL to AF, D-I: 1 hour 40 minutes until 11/23/23; 1 hour 15 minutes starting 11/24/23
- DL to AF, I-I: 2 hours
- AF to DL, I-D: 2 hours 15 minutes until 12/31/23; 1 hour 45 minutes starting 1/1/24
- AF to DL, I-I: 2 hours
DL to/from KL
- DL to KL, D-I: 45 minutes
- DL to KL, I-I: 1 hour 25 minutes
- KL to DL, I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes
- KL to DL, I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes
DL to/from VS:
- DL to VS, D-I: 45 minutes
- DL to VS, I-I: 1 hour 25 minutes
- VS to DL, I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes
- VS to DL, I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes
Other connections
LA to DL I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes until 7/21/23, 1 hour 35 minutes starting 7/22/23.LA to DL I-I: 1 hour 30 minutes
Generic online and offline:
D-D: 1 hour
D-I: 1 hour 15 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 45 minutes
I-I: 2 hours
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at New York (JFK): The Definitive Thread
Jul 11, 2021, 12:29 pm
#2012
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- Inbound flight is canceled or late. Not much you can do to control for this.
- Immigration. According to CBP, JFK T1 had a maximum wait time of 47 minutes for non-citizens in the 10am hour yesterday. Different days have longer maximums, and US/Canadian/GE/Return ESTA will all be faster, but this gives an approximate upper bound.
- Baggage claim. If checking bags, the longest I've ever waited at T1 was an hour from an AF A380, I have to imagine JL F would be faster. Regardless, this and immigration are not additive... if you take an hour to clear immigration, your bags will probably be waiting for you.
- Transfer to DL. You can basically walk (outdoors) to T2 if your flight leaves from there, or take the AirTrain to T4. The AirTrain at T1 is a bit annoying to get to (all the way upstairs), so I'd allow 10-15 min for this transfer.
- Bag Drop at DL. I'm assuming you'll already have your DL BP or can easily get one from your phone or the kiosk. If you need to drop bags, there is a SkyPriority line at the far right of the terminal, which is usually pretty quick. I'm also assuming the summer chaos will be over by January. (T4 this summer is a madhouse.) There is also a DL bag drop at T1 to service AF connections, but I don't know if any AF flights get in that early, so I don't know if the counter would be open yet.
- Clearing Security. The longest I've ever taken with Pre-√ is about 10 minutes. Without, you'd still have access to the priority line, which is 20 minutes at worst. 11am is not a peak time, so you'll probably do better than that.
- Getting to the Gate. Depending on where you fly out of, walking (or walk+bus) takes about 5 to 20 minutes.
Jul 11, 2021, 6:33 pm
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It is possible, but not without risk. Assuming you're not through ticketed, if you miss your DL flight for any reason they are under no obligation to rebook you, though probably they would. Here are your potential delay points:
- Inbound flight is canceled or late. Not much you can do to control for this.
- Immigration. According to CBP, JFK T1 had a maximum wait time of 47 minutes for non-citizens in the 10am hour yesterday. Different days have longer maximums, and US/Canadian/GE/Return ESTA will all be faster, but this gives an approximate upper bound.
- Baggage claim. If checking bags, the longest I've ever waited at T1 was an hour from an AF A380, I have to imagine JL F would be faster. Regardless, this and immigration are not additive... if you take an hour to clear immigration, your bags will probably be waiting for you.
- Transfer to DL. You can basically walk (outdoors) to T2 if your flight leaves from there, or take the AirTrain to T4. The AirTrain at T1 is a bit annoying to get to (all the way upstairs), so I'd allow 10-15 min for this transfer.
- Bag Drop at DL. I'm assuming you'll already have your DL BP or can easily get one from your phone or the kiosk. If you need to drop bags, there is a SkyPriority line at the far right of the terminal, which is usually pretty quick. I'm also assuming the summer chaos will be over by January. (T4 this summer is a madhouse.) There is also a DL bag drop at T1 to service AF connections, but I don't know if any AF flights get in that early, so I don't know if the counter would be open yet.
- Clearing Security. The longest I've ever taken with Pre-√ is about 10 minutes. Without, you'd still have access to the priority line, which is 20 minutes at worst. 11am is not a peak time, so you'll probably do better than that.
- Getting to the Gate. Depending on where you fly out of, walking (or walk+bus) takes about 5 to 20 minutes.
Aug 1, 2021, 7:41 am
#2014
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Booked BOG-JFK-LAX. Single PNR. No checked bags.
BOG-JFK arrives 7:10 AM on a Sunday
JFK-LAX departs at 9:00 AM
Is 1:50 too short? There's an 8:45 AM departure (for $30 more) but I'd rather just get on with the trip and not wait around JFK, especially since the showers are closed in the Skyclub. Realize this is above the MCT but would appreciate any recent experience.
Thank you!
BOG-JFK arrives 7:10 AM on a Sunday
JFK-LAX departs at 9:00 AM
Is 1:50 too short? There's an 8:45 AM departure (for $30 more) but I'd rather just get on with the trip and not wait around JFK, especially since the showers are closed in the Skyclub. Realize this is above the MCT but would appreciate any recent experience.
Thank you!
Aug 1, 2021, 7:53 am
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Booked BOG-JFK-LAX. Single PNR. No checked bags.
BOG-JFK arrives 7:10 AM on a Sunday
JFK-LAX departs at 9:00 AM
Is 1:50 too short? There's an 8:45 AM departure (for $30 more) but I'd rather just get on with the trip and not wait around JFK, especially since the showers are closed in the Skyclub. Realize this is above the MCT but would appreciate any recent experience.
Thank you!
BOG-JFK arrives 7:10 AM on a Sunday
JFK-LAX departs at 9:00 AM
Is 1:50 too short? There's an 8:45 AM departure (for $30 more) but I'd rather just get on with the trip and not wait around JFK, especially since the showers are closed in the Skyclub. Realize this is above the MCT but would appreciate any recent experience.
Thank you!
Aug 1, 2021, 8:41 am
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This has probably been answered before but I'm frankly just too lazy to search lol - sorry about that
Might have to change a BOS-LHR direct on VS to BOS-JFK-LHR (DL -> VS) in early Sept depending on what VS does with their schedules.. I've managed to avoid connecting in JFK before - I know the BOS-JFK flight could arrive in either T2 or 4 and VS leaves from T4. Would a 50-55min connection be sufficient if there is indeed a T2 -> 4 xfer? No way to take an earlier flight as we'd be connecting on to the daytime VS flight from the 0600 BOS - JFK departure. I have TSA pre-check but my girlfriend does not (at this time - working on that though haha)
Might have to change a BOS-LHR direct on VS to BOS-JFK-LHR (DL -> VS) in early Sept depending on what VS does with their schedules.. I've managed to avoid connecting in JFK before - I know the BOS-JFK flight could arrive in either T2 or 4 and VS leaves from T4. Would a 50-55min connection be sufficient if there is indeed a T2 -> 4 xfer? No way to take an earlier flight as we'd be connecting on to the daytime VS flight from the 0600 BOS - JFK departure. I have TSA pre-check but my girlfriend does not (at this time - working on that though haha)
Aug 1, 2021, 8:49 am
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This has probably been answered before but I'm frankly just too lazy to search lol - sorry about that
Might have to change a BOS-LHR direct on VS to BOS-JFK-LHR (DL -> VS) in early Sept depending on what VS does with their schedules.. I've managed to avoid connecting in JFK before - I know the BOS-JFK flight could arrive in either T2 or 4 and VS leaves from T4. Would a 50-55min connection be sufficient if there is indeed a T2 -> 4 xfer? No way to take an earlier flight as we'd be connecting on to the daytime VS flight from the 0600 BOS - JFK departure. I have TSA pre-check but my girlfriend does not (at this time - working on that though haha)
Might have to change a BOS-LHR direct on VS to BOS-JFK-LHR (DL -> VS) in early Sept depending on what VS does with their schedules.. I've managed to avoid connecting in JFK before - I know the BOS-JFK flight could arrive in either T2 or 4 and VS leaves from T4. Would a 50-55min connection be sufficient if there is indeed a T2 -> 4 xfer? No way to take an earlier flight as we'd be connecting on to the daytime VS flight from the 0600 BOS - JFK departure. I have TSA pre-check but my girlfriend does not (at this time - working on that though haha)
Aug 1, 2021, 9:02 am
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Aug 12, 2021, 11:31 am
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Do you have GE? Are you checking bags?
If no GE and checking bags that will be tight. Doable, but tight since you’ll have to wait for bags on carousel and re-check.
If no GE and checking bags that will be tight. Doable, but tight since you’ll have to wait for bags on carousel and re-check.
Aug 12, 2021, 11:33 am
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Should easily be ok if a US citizen. If not it should still be ok, just not as guaranteed. If you have GE, it's 100% doable.
Aug 12, 2021, 11:42 am
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But if your TATL flight is on-time, it's enough time.
Aug 12, 2021, 12:05 pm
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One time I missed the last JFK-DCA flight after a TATL from Europe. Delta put me on LGA-DCA and paid for a car service to drive me over there. So check to see if there are any later LGA-ATL flights you might be able to use as back-up.
But if your TATL flight is on-time, it's enough time.
But if your TATL flight is on-time, it's enough time.