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China Airlines and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread

China Airlines and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread

Old Dec 17, 01, 5:38 pm
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China Airlines and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread

I can't believe this!
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Delta, Taiwan Airline to Sell Seats

Delta Air Lines and China Airlines, Taiwan's Largest Carrier, Will Market Seats Together

ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines and China Airlines, Taiwan's largest carrier, announced an agreement Monday to sell seats on each other's hub flights.

The deal gives Atlanta-based Delta a second partner in the Asian market, where its service is limited.

Delta will sell seats on China's daily flights to Taipei from New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. China will put its code on Delta flights from the California cities to Atlanta, Cincinnati, Dallas-Fort Worth, Salt Lake City and Tampa, Fla. The airlines expect to expand the agreement in the future.

China Airlines has a codesharing agreement with American Airlines to handle mail, but Delta is its first U.S. partner with passengers.

China President Christine T. Tsung said she and Delta's chairman and chief executive Leo F. Mullin ``share very close management philosophies.'' Tsung said there has been no discussions yet about whether China might join the Delta-led SkyTeam Alliance.
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Old Dec 18, 01, 2:28 am
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A friend of mine did fly China Airlines in September to Taipei - he reported that the flight and service was good...
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Old Dec 18, 01, 8:02 am
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The surprise here is really that DL would sign up with a carrier that has a less than excellent safety record.

That said I have flown them many times and they were fine.
It will be interesting to see how Dlo price out a business class fare as China Airlines have always had good prices to TPE.

With DL gone on the LAX to NRT route, this is an attempt to offer us something into Asia.

It is a good start, but with no old style upgrades available except for Platinum, it is still a long 14 hours
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Old Dec 18, 01, 8:17 am
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Would we be able to upgrade with miles?

Would they have to be Y B M fares?
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Old Dec 18, 01, 6:24 pm
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Interesting...

After China Airlines most recent set of incidents, AA quietly dropped them as a full-fledged codeshare partner.

No announcement was ever made.

Several months later AA announced that they were going to codeshare with EVA to Taiwan. They are doing so now.

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Old Dec 18, 01, 6:44 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">...Delta will sell seats on China's daily flights to Taipei from New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. China will put its code on Delta flights from the California cities to Atlanta, Cincinnati, Dallas-Fort Worth, Salt Lake City and Tampa, Fla. The airlines expect to expand the agreement in the future...</font>
That really doesn't say DL is going to place DL flight number (codeshare) on China Airlines flights. Just says China will place its code on some DL flights. Or am I reading that wrong?

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Old Dec 18, 01, 7:03 pm
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What's to disbelieve. Clearly something had to happen after canning 80% of the Asian flights.... I still expect another codeshare with JAL or NZ or whomever....


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Old Dec 19, 01, 1:05 am
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Confirmation from justplanes.com Airline-News:

China Airlines and Delta signed a codesharing agreement yesterday.
Under the agreement, which is subject to government approval and the completion of a successful operational review, Delta would sell seats under its code on China Airlines' daily flights from Taipei to Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York (JFK) beginning in the spring 2002, according to a joint statement.
China Airlines would sell seats under the China Airlines code on Delta flights from Los Angeles and San Francisco to Atlanta, Dallas/Fort Worth, Salt Lake City, Tampa and Cincinnati.
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Old Jan 5, 02, 12:18 pm
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Had to bring this up again.

First KE now CI? are DL that desperate?somebody epxplain this to me please.
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Old Jan 6, 02, 6:06 am
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sparkz: welcome to FlyerTalk!

Well, they need some way to get folks to Asia, since they clearly don't much want to do it themselves....

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Old Jan 6, 02, 8:41 am
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well, based on the safety record, I am not sure the pax will get there in the first place :P
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Old Jan 27, 02, 12:40 pm
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Another cheap shot at CI,

See below link where CI plane took off on taxiramp instead of runway

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/006225.html
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China Airlines codeshare

Delta Air Lines Receives U.S. Department of Transportation Authority to Fly to Taiwan; Codeshare Flights with China Airlines to Start June 1

ATLANTA, April 30, 2002 -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE AL) announced today it has received U.S. Department of Transportation approval to codeshare between the United States to Taiwan with China Airlines. The start-up date will be June 1, 2002.

Delta and China Airlines last year signed a marketing agreement that gives Delta the opportunity to sell seats under the Delta code on China Airlines’ daily flights from Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York (JFK) to Taipei, Taiwan. China Airlines will sell seats under the China Airlines code on Delta flights from Los Angeles and San Francisco to Atlanta, Dallas/Ft Worth, Salt Lake City, Tampa, Fla., and Cincinnati.

The airlines said the agreement will promote mutual communication and cooperation and will lead to cooperation in the areas of interlining of passengers; enhancement of computer reservations systems; sharing of facilities and passenger handling in jointly served cities; and mutual participation in each airline's frequent flyer program.

Delta initially will sell seats only on China Airlines flights from the United States to Taipei and, in the future, plans to expand the cooperation to include destinations beyond the China Airlines’ hub to destinations in Taiwan. China Airlines initially will sell seats only on Delta flights from Los Angeles and San Francisco to Atlanta, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Salt Lake City, Tampa and Cincinnati. Future plans call for discussions concerning expanding flights to additional U.S. cities.

China Airlines, founded in 1959, provides service from Taipei to 50 cities in 21 countries with a fleet of 56 Boeing, McDonnell Douglas and Airbus aircraft. More than 8.2 million passengers fly each year on China Airlines. The carrier has more than 9,200 employees worldwide.
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Old May 27, 02, 4:06 pm
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China Airlines Crash Leads to Delay in Delta Alliance

A valuable business linkup between China Airlines and Delta Air Lines that was to start this week will be delayed as safety concerns were reignited in the weekend crash involving the Asian carrier.

Taiwan's largest airline, China Airlines operated in near isolation the last three years as a result of a spate of deadly crashes. That was to end Saturday with a flight-link deal with Delta that has now been delayed indefinitely, executives at the companies said. The delay is one of several financial blows the carrier will suffer in the wake of Saturday's accident...

China Airlines was set to mark its return to international acceptance with the new Delta partnership, an important step for the carrier's prestige and its finances. Under the deal, Delta would have placed its passengers on China Airlines flights to Taipei from Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Airlines have hustled to find partners in recent years as a vital tool to grab more passengers, especially business travelers. But China Airlines has been left out since U.S. carriers AMR Corp.'s American Airlines and Continental Airlines dropped the Taiwan carrier in 1999 amid growing scrutiny of the safety record of U.S. airlines' foreign partners. Delta suspended its agreement to put passengers on Korean Air Lines after a Korean Air crash that year.

U.S. regulators have since required U.S. airlines to conduct safety audits of their prospective partners before finalizing so-called code-sharing deals for airlines to market seats on each others' flights. Washington signed off on Delta's audit of China Airlines last month, and the Taiwan carrier had told analysts it expected the arrangement to boost annual revenue by more than 1.4 billion New Taiwan dollars (US$40.8 million). China Airlines also was quietly preparing to join the global SkyTeam alliance led by Delta and Air France late this year.

The alliance also includes Korean Air, with which Delta reactivated code-sharing links this month while hailing its safety improvements. Ties with China Airlines, however, will be held up indefinitely, airline officials said. "I don't have any idea when [the codeshare] might be rescheduled," said Burt Pinoli, Delta's area general manager. "That's pending a lot of different things as you might imagine." Added Paul C.Y. Wang, a China Airlines spokesman, "There's a long way to go" before SkyTeam membership.

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB1...0.html?mod=DAI
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Old May 27, 02, 7:21 pm
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If what this report says is accurate; this means that eventually Korean, Aeroflot, and China airlines will all someday be in the same alliance.

Perhaps they should consider a name change to ScaryTeam?????

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